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Expect more of the same. Natural cyclic periods of global warming (having nothing to do with human activity) are also periods of increased rainfall - due to increased atmospheric moisture from melted and evaported snow fields and glaciers. That's why during a major warming period peaking around 5000 B.C. the Sahara Desert was a grassland, Arabia was a land of lakes and rivers, and Lebanon was covered with Cedar forests. They were good times, and helped bring about the rise of civilization. Of course, many in Santa Cruz would view that as a bad thing.

6" of rain in Aptos as of 4PM yesterday.

As of this morning at 8:00am, the wunderground rainfall totals give nearly 15 inches for Ben Lomond Mountain

When I lived in Boulder Creek in January of 1982 we got about 20 inches in 24 hours on our own rain meter. That was the storm that caused the Love Creek slide and killed dozens of people. So unless they are seeing a mess as catastrophic as that, I don't see how this storm could be record breaking - unless the infrastructure has improved so much that the mountains can handle drastically more than they did before. I recall Santa Cruz was flooded with a bridge section collapsed as well.

This is not natural This is one of the predicted effects of Global Warming

The coal industry plant would like you to believe that this is somehow
not their fault. But this is just a preview of what will get much worse.
We are all the cause of the massive climate shifts now happening.
But some people are more of a problem than others.

ENGINEERS FOR THE FUTURE, it is all history repeating itself. You must be an Al Gore fan, give it up and get a real job.

Susan McNerney wrote:

When I lived in Boulder Creek in January of 1982 we got about 20 inches in 24 hours on our own rain meter. That was the storm that caused the Love Creek slide and killed dozens of people. So unless they are seeing a mess as catastrophic as that, I don't see how this storm could be record breaking - unless the infrastructure has improved so much that the mountains can handle drastically more than they did before. I recall Santa Cruz was flooded with a bridge section collapsed as well.

The "record breaking" aspect is the size of the storm for October. Comparing to a "100 year storm" that happened in January (my house in Soquel was under water and I was evacuated for over a week in January of '82 so I recall that one too).

The biggest difference is first rain yesterday (no super-saturated soil waiting to slip slide away) and a huge amount of water coming down after many weeks of above normal rains back in '82. If a storm like we had yesterday were to happen after a few storms had saturated the soil there would have been much more damage.

Susan McNerney wrote:

When I lived in Boulder Creek in January of 1982 we got about 20 inches in 24 hours on our own rain meter. That was the storm that caused the Love Creek slide and killed dozens of people. So unless they are seeing a mess as catastrophic as that, I don't see how this storm could be record breaking - unless the infrastructure has improved so much that the mountains can handle drastically more than they did before. I recall Santa Cruz was flooded with a bridge section collapsed as well.

The difference between the storm of 82 and yesterday's is that it is only October and the ground is dry. In 82, the storm was in January and occurred after a series of storms. The ground was saturated. Had yesterday's come in mid winter, I think the results would be much more catastrophic. My $.02.

Amazing that with a mere 100 years of data, all of these climate change "experts" can predict with absolute certainty Global Warming. Or is it Global Cooling? Did you ever stop to think that environmental groups are all screaming doom and gloom so that you will send them money? Read Michael Creighton's State of Fear before you start building the bomb shelter.

Wow!!! Send us some rain.

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But for those who might venture into the ocean today, county Environmental Health Services stated people should not surf, swim, or dive in rivers, creeks or near areas of storm drain outlets during and up to three days after heavy rain, as such rain runoff contains large amounts of bacteria, viruses and other contaminants, especially immediately after the season's first big storm.

Engineers for the future wrote:

This is not natural This is one of the predicted effects of Global Warming
The coal industry plant would like you to believe that this is somehow
not their fault. But this is just a preview of what will get much worse.
We are all the cause of the massive climate shifts now happening.
But some people are more of a problem than others.

what caused record rain falls 20 or 30 yrs ago ? record rain fall / floods in the earlier part of the 19th century?

We might consider this storm as a warning against the devastation of the storm of 1982. As many of us remember, the build up of fallen trees, logs, and debris that washed down the San Lorenzo river, built up and collapsed two major downtown bridges. That action knocked out power to the downtown area.
Hopefully, the City Council will send work crews to inspect the river and not have a repeat of that kind of storm damage later this rainy season.