Goodyear health plan still in court

Casey wrote:

The fund being able to pay out for years is not good enough. The word is forever. If it can't do that then it's thumbs down. You can't count on employee contributions when Goodyear is trying to cut its workforce and slash the pay scale

IT IS ALL B S wrote:

GOODYEAR are a bunch of w hores, after 40 years with the company they CHANGE the game and now say EVERYTHING WE TOLD YOU FOR 40 YEARS IS B ULLSHIT forget it , no more benees . The government COULD have stopped all this , THANK your government that all your jobs will be DOWN THE DRAIN,

lac wrote:

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I still can not believe that the union attitude still exists. Do you people not know how to take care of yourselves and plan for the future. NOTHING stays the same.... I work for a large company in the area that has cut retiree healthcare for the nonunion workers. The retirees have been given a grace period to find healthcare. Crap move most definitely but the people are doing it. But then again we educated our employees, they took responsibilty for themselves.
Most people nowadays do not have company sponsored healthcare insurance beyond 65 which is viewed as secondary behind Medicare. You will see in the next 2-3 years that most companies out of financial necessity will have to cut retiree healthcare for those 65 and older. General Motors is just leading the way.
I think instead of complaining, the writing is on the wall, quit sitting on your rearends, educate yourself and do something to secure yourself. Unless of course you are too lazy....and you continue to choose to let someone dictate and make those decisions for you. The union mentality is gone.....get used to it!

lac wrote:

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I still can not believe that the union attitude still exists. Do you people not know how to take care of yourselves and plan for the future.

$$$$$$ Um yeah, how are we not taking care of ourselves? Working in their plants for them and us,making their product for them and us to sell for profit for them and us. No workers, no product, no profit ... try selling nothing on Wall Street. See, your words used to get to me until I realized that APPARENTLY the CEO's,executives,Officers and miscellaneous chosen few don't no how to take care of themselves and plan for the future either....seems to be why such as our company like GT has to have 3 different pension plans for Keegan and crew while they can't afford us at all and why in the middle of "Global Competition" and this current economy in America the only business they have to bring at the Annual Shareholders meeting is 2 more Compensation packages that better pass or they will find alternatives.... but please, I know, its just to much to ask one man to plan the rest of his life off of a few paltry million,what could I have been thinking....these are talented,unearthly like men...hmmmmm?Come now, how many executives does it take to screw.....geez,sorry,I forget the rest of the joke,gotta check and make sure the hubby's 401k is still there :).

NOTHING stays the same.... I work for a large company in the area that has cut retiree healthcare for the nonunion workers. The retirees have been given a grace period to find healthcare. Crap move most definitely but the people are doing it. But then again we educated our employees, they took responsibilty for themselves.

**** Grace periods and education is a scapegoat to make someone feel better or for PR.... it doesn't change the reality of what its done to some of these people or that it has nearly destroyed some or has others and it doesn't put a bandaid on an arterial bleed... 30 -40 years...forget you, didn't mean a thing...in your face as they wave from a yacht from sitting in an office getting their 30 and pensions and med from walking in the door.

Most people nowadays do not have company sponsored healthcare insurance beyond 65 which is viewed as secondary behind Medicare. You will see in the next 2-3 years that most companies out of financial necessity will have to cut retiree healthcare for those 65 and older. General Motors is just leading the way.
I think instead of complaining, the writing is on the wall, quit sitting on your rearends, educate yourself and do something to secure yourself. Unless of course you are too lazy....and you continue to choose to let someone dictate and make those decisions for you. The union mentality is gone.....get used to it!