New Santa Fe Springs church has big plans, huge facility

good grief..........just what we needed was a group who doesnt believe in scientific facts.
and the animals lined up nicely by 2's of each species right ? they got in the ark without killing each other and multipied ? is that right ?

someone pass me the excedrin -- i feel a big one coming

whittier guy wrote:

good grief..........just what we needed was a group who doesnt believe in scientific facts.
and the animals lined up nicely by 2's of each species right ? they got in the ark without killing each other and multipied ? is that right ?
someone pass me the excedrin -- i feel a big one coming

BELIEVE!!!!

@study: Believe? In what?

This scam artist should be in jail along with the rest of these types. They prey on the ignorant and steal their money.

santa fe springs?!
hahahah
it's CITY OF WHITTIER
hellooooooo

Yeah believe what? You can wait for the rest of your life for Jesus to come back. You are more likely to see Jesus in trees than to see him return to Earth.

Unless of course Jesus actually smoked pot, gave pot to people, and harvested it, otherwise known as the Great Harvest.

that's why people were cured and saw stuff, they were all high. haha.

dooobie doobie doo.

I have been attending the church for 23 years, it is a taste of heaven in this pagan world I live and work in.

My comment is to:
rbw
Whittier, CA
Re your comment, "This scam artist should be in jail along with the rest of these types. They prey on the ignorant and steal their money." I'm sorry to read your words as I'm all too aware of the truth in them re: many evangelists. I am however compelled to share with you a truth you are unaware of. In the the 38 years Pastor Montoya has been pastor to FFBC, not once has he asked for a raise. FFBC did however plant a church in the La Habra area and actively contribute to this day, financially with a Baptist Church in the Wilmington area. This does not include the numerous missionaries finanacially supported by FFBC in other countries. Pastor Montoya had such a strong desire to reach the Whittier community that he consolidated everything to come to this community. Not for profit, but for the very reason he has faithfully taught the word of God without compromise, because of his desire to reach the lost one soul at a time, not by words of his own but through the words of scripture. If the manner by which a man lives exposes the hidden agenda of his heart, Pastor Montoya's 38 plus years of passionate preaching and daily living reveal a heart committed to the cause of Christ wholly. I do understand your inclination to think evangelists are what you say, and perhaps your summation in general is accurate; but for the men of God like Pastor Montoya who dedicate their lives unselfishly and without waiver to accurately preaching the word of God, your words are as far from the truth as East is to West. I invite you to visit the church and examine if what I claim is true or false. What a wonderful opprtunity it would be to have you find that such men do exists.

This guy "Alex Montoya" is another criminal in disguise. He's managed to convince parishoners to re-finance their homes inorder to fund his new church. Ego, Greed and notoriety is what this guy and church is all about. Politics is what runs this church, not Christ's desires.

I hope and pray Mr. Montoya corrects his inapproprate behavior and focuses on God and not himself.

People are begining to get fed up with this church's politics and leaving. Hopefully Alex Montoya can dig deep and the "Right Thing" for his church. Do Christ's Will and not Montoyas Will.....

This Pastor is the biggest hypocrite in the Whittie area.....Preaches forgivness but can't forgive or talk to his own daughter....Sad!

Amalia Hermosillo wrote:

My comment is to:
rbw
Whittier, CA
Re your comment, "This scam artist should be in jail along with the rest of these types. They prey on the ignorant and steal their money." I'm sorry to read your words as I'm all too aware of the truth in them re: many evangelists. I am however compelled to share with you a truth you are unaware of. In the the 38 years Pastor Montoya has been pastor to FFBC, not once has he asked for a raise. FFBC did however plant a church in the La Habra area and actively contribute to this day, financially with a Baptist Church in the Wilmington area. This does not include the numerous missionaries finanacially supported by FFBC in other countries. Pastor Montoya had such a strong desire to reach the Whittier community that he consolidated everything to come to this community. Not for profit, but for the very reason he has faithfully taught the word of God without compromise, because of his desire to reach the lost one soul at a time, not by words of his own but through the words of scripture. If the manner by which a man lives exposes the hidden agenda of his heart, Pastor Montoya's 38 plus years of passionate preaching and daily living reveal a heart committed to the cause of Christ wholly. I do understand your inclination to think evangelists are what you say, and perhaps your summation in general is accurate; but for the men of God like Pastor Montoya who dedicate their lives unselfishly and without waiver to accurately preaching the word of God, your words are as far from the truth as East is to West. I invite you to visit the church and examine if what I claim is true or false. What a wonderful opprtunity it would be to have you find that such men do exists.

Look at me....Look what were doing....hardly Christ like. Your scam has been figured out. Do God's will and not FFBC's will.

James wrote:

This guy "Alex Montoya" is another criminal in disguise. He's managed to convince parishoners to re-finance their homes inorder to fund his new church. Ego, Greed and notoriety is what this guy and church is all about. Politics is what runs this church, not Christ's desires.
I hope and pray Mr. Montoya corrects his inapproprate behavior and focuses on God and not himself.

"Ego, greed and notoriety"? Where do you get this stuff from? You obviously don't know Alex Montoya. I am an engineer, a graduate of USC , who has known and served under this man of God for over 35 years. Over this time Pastor Montoya has turned down numerous higher paying opportunities in order to keep to his first calling -- preaching the word of God in our community; sheesh he's even taken a pay cut.

You say 'politics' runs this church? Hardly. In the 35+ years I've been involved with this church, FFBC has remained true to its name -- holding to the most basic tenets of the scriptures. I wouldn't have remained at FFBC all this time if it had deviated from biblical truths.

Exalting God, saving souls through the gospel of Jesus Christ, and building up the faith of believers is what FFBC is all about. We'd welcome anyone to come visit us and see for themselves.

I hope Mr Montoya learns from his faults and truly exalts God. As for the welcoming to visit the church, well, I'll pass. This Pastor has to grow biblically and place him self second.

This church had good potential, however it has lost credibility with many in the community. Like Jimmy Swaggart, this Pastor is falling from glory. Sad. I hope the leadership can repair what's left and truly grow in Christ word...

Wow wrote:

I hope Mr Montoya learns from his faults and truly exalts God. As for the welcoming to visit the church, well, I'll pass. This Pastor has to grow biblically and place him self second.
This church had good potential, however it has lost credibility with many in the community. Like Jimmy Swaggart, this Pastor is falling from glory. Sad. I hope the leadership can repair what's left and truly grow in Christ word...

Interesting observations, but have you ever heard Pastor Montoya preach? Very biblically sound man, as are all of our pastors. Of course, we can all stand to grow in Christ and in His word.

However, comparing Alex Montoya to Jimmy Swaggart borders on character assasination, expecially since Swaggart admitted to adultery and had questionable religious teachings.

Praise the Lord, this is a miracle. We are a part of HISTORY!!!

GOD keeps the human race in line(evil as we are.) And WE are evil! I'm sure God can keep animals in line. Animals aren't the issue though...Jesus Christ and His death on the cross is. God loves us, we should start loving Him, no? Peace out.

whittier guy wrote:

good grief..........just what we needed was a group who doesnt believe in scientific facts.
and the animals lined up nicely by 2's of each species right ? they got in the ark without killing each other and multipied ? is that right ?
someone pass me the excedrin -- i feel a big one coming

BELIEVE Jesus Christ was fully God and truly man. The God/man who loved you enough to die for your sins. Let's keep it real we're all sinners.Why hate on Jesus, He doesn't hate you. Jesus is mankind's only answer. We are all going to die...only Jesus can save us. Who you going to turn to when its your time to die? the goverment? yeah right. Your family? they have no power over death. WHO???? Jesus, thats WHO!!! Believe in Jesus Christ God the SON. I'm out peace.

Paul wrote:

@study: Believe? In what?

My pastor probably makes more money than you do with his job as a professor at Master's College. My pastor has a doctorate, do you? My pastor has his master's degree. Do you? So lets see he has 2 jobs. Do you? Your just a HATER! I feel sorry for you man. Its not about money, its about faith in Jesus Christ. When we all die money can't help any of us then, but Jesus Christ can be there for you. Trust Jesus. Peace out rbw

rbw wrote:

This scam artist should be in jail along with the rest of these types. They prey on the ignorant and steal their money.