Meth labs making comeback in Inland Empire

The great white hope of the I.E.

They never left you morons. Everybody was so busy hunting down and doing press on the mexican weed grows, they were temp forgotten. They actually have doubled since then because they have become more clever in hiding them and professional in operations. They never left, law enforcement has turned their backs to it in exchange for press coverage.

This is what happens when you cut the supply. The other problem is 30% of the people are on welfare 30% are unemployed. the hard fact are the IE hs no projected recovery from the recession if it is a recession. The State has insured their will be no recovery for the IE. CARB & AQMD have done their job and ran industry out of CA. and their is no start ups. The fact is we lost he trucking industry we lost the construction industry we lost the manufacturing industry. We are going to lose the warehouse industry. Their is no way the tax structure can support the current system, Ca. has a melt down as they release 40,000 inmates. Their all comming back. And their going to do the same things they did before. Maybe the terrorist training camp we sent them to they learned somthing knew called State Prison.
We have 2 million gang members in S. Ca. they are out rape rob murder steal selling drugs every day 24/7. How many victims you think we have a day from all those gang members? If 10% that would be 200,000 victims a day I bet the it much higher. their is no way that the police could even take the reports. So you have to wonder who the criminals are how about the people covering up this. They are the real criminals. They have more victims than any country ever in our history. Why? Because e Government allows gangs.
Their a war just below the border the same gangs are up here. If things are out of control now what happens when the war crosses the border. These gang have million dollars business they do not pay any taxes. Why? The Government would rather spend million play with them. They arrest them take them to court send them to jail and the Federal judges release them. We need a gang camp in the desert we need to put 2 million gang members in it.
The public has a right to be free of these urban terrorist the Government has not got that message.

halkshaw wrote:

This is what happens when you cut the supply. The other problem is 30% of the people are on welfare 30% are unemployed. the hard fact are the IE hs no projected recovery from the recession if it is a recession. The State has insured their will be no recovery for the IE. CARB & AQMD have done their job and ran industry out of CA. and their is no start ups. The fact is we lost he trucking industry we lost the construction industry we lost the manufacturing industry. We are going to lose the warehouse industry. Their is no way the tax structure can support the current system, Ca. has a melt down as they release 40,000 inmates. Their all comming back. And their going to do the same things they did before. Maybe the terrorist training camp we sent them to they learned somthing knew called State Prison.
We have 2 million gang members in S. Ca. they are out rape rob murder steal selling drugs every day 24/7. How many victims you think we have a day from all those gang members? If 10% that would be 200,000 victims a day I bet the it much higher. their is no way that the police could even take the reports. So you have to wonder who the criminals are how about the people covering up this. They are the real criminals. They have more victims than any country ever in our history. Why? Because e Government allows gangs.
Their a war just below the border the same gangs are up here. If things are out of control now what happens when the war crosses the border. These gang have million dollars business they do not pay any taxes. Why? The Government would rather spend million play with them. They arrest them take them to court send them to jail and the Federal judges release them. We need a gang camp in the desert we need to put 2 million gang members in it.
The public has a right to be free of these urban terrorist the Government has not got that message.

Well said!But back to the subject at hand.Meth is a terrible,terrible drug and it must be stopped!

It's good to get some recognition. There's no such thing as bad publicity. Rock on, IE.
BTW, there's not only a 30% unemployment rate, but nearly 50% of IE homeowners are underwater on their mortgages. They have no margin of safety and are treading water.
The highest salaries are government workers and utility workers.
The princesses of Methland USA are police and fire - blue collar millionaires. They sport six figure salaries pointing to seven figure retirement packages. They benefit from crack houses because it gives them something to bust, fires to snuff, and news headlines to shout their patriotism.
Check cashing outlets, tattoo parlors, rent to own stores and failed development are compost for White Christmas.
Fences around neighborhood schools are the IE signature. Keep out crack heads, keep out neighborhood, if you graduate from high school you to can suck on the public tit.

Welcome back the days of the wild wild west.

See!! Who says Americans don't manufacture anything, anymore?

Wait a minute...a lot of these people are illegals from Mexico!

Nevermind...

White people are destroying America with their Meth.

I was born and raised in I.E.(and miss is very much) but moved north to the Redding area (and hate it here, all right-wing white trash/rednecks, and I am white!). Even with it's "problems", I.E. has a lot to offer that are positive, such as
diversity (I did not realize how necessary diversity is until I moved someone where there isn't any). Meth is apparently rampant here in the north-state (towards the Oregon border), especially in our mountain areas. One of the worst problems we have here is Rx drug abuse (Oxycontin, Vicodin, Methadone, etc.) but Doctors and Pharmacists NEVER get held accountable for any role they could be playing. Even in one of the most regulated field, there is always a loophole, there is always a "can't prove otherwise" excuse for writting so many scripts for controlled pain relievers. Don't get me started on how this has effected Medi-Cal costs (if everybody played by the rules, both patients and Mds, we then would not have problems in our public programs). One thing I am very pleased to see is that nobody here has yet to blame Mexican illegals (directly) in their comments, for the drug problem. Up here in far NorCal, our leaders are so quick to blame everything on illegal Mexicans, it's pure racism, imo. The racism up here is unreal! The ignorance up here is unreal! It's white people who are BUYING the stuff, stop buying and they won't sell! A recent article in my local paper said that American citizens who are growing pot are putting illegal Mexican growers out of business, and yet the comments from the locals were still blaming the illegals! I try to set the record straight up here but they are just so ignorant up here! I feel like I live in some hick-town in Texas, lol. Law enforcement are the ones profiting off the drug war (the Sheriff up here made a huge deal b/c he *thinks* a pot bust up here *may* have something to do with illegals, lol). The underlining problem is the economy! I would have NEVER considered dealing drugs, and I hope I never HAVE TO, but I would if I felt that was the only way to feed my family...and I am law-abiding and work two jobs (but my employer just eliminated health insurance that I worked so hard for, so one illness and we lose everything! and my employers are always threatening lay-offs and cut-backs, while he and his family just went on a two week vacation AND they are re-modeling their business, rumored to cost $20,000 or more, and his wife plans to get cosmetic surgery and they bought a brand new Harley Davidson motorcycle, and a Mercedes.
.....yet they "can't afford" to pay health insurance for their employees and to keep them full-time???? Please! These are the REAL problems in society!). The real problems are greed and corruption, within corporations and business owners, and public officials who support them and help them hide their profits, so that they can continue to "claim" to be struggling...and so that they can continue to pay employees nothing while they keep profiting off of CHEAP LABOR, and our government enables this behavior, our government is bought off by lobbyists who are fighting for the wealthy. These are the real criminals, imo. This is the biggest American problem! This is destroying our economy, our country. Not drugs! The drug war and illegals are used as scapegoats by the leaders and by the ignorant.

Truth Teller wrote:

See!! Who says Americans don't manufacture anything, anymore?
Wait a minute...a lot of these people are illegals from Mexico!
Nevermind...

I spoke too soon, I guess ignorance is everywhere! LOL

Whites are Tweekers wrote:

White people are destroying America with their Meth.

I guess you did not read the Ontario article. All of the suspects were Hispanic... and in case you have not realized, Meth is wide-spread through Hispanic populations as well. Go check out El Monte, Baldwin Park, West Covina, Ontario. Drugs in general are destroying america but only because of drug users. Supply and Demand.

Does anyone on here really know the truth about anything? Mexico is the #1 supplier of Meth to the US. If you own a business and can prove legitimate business with Mexico you can get a card that you swipe when you cross at the border. SO when you drive across you get into a lane (fast lane) and swipe your card so that your business is not hurt by waiting in line.... The downfall… Homeland Security cannot stop and randomly inspect the truck like they can any other vehicle that enters our borders. This is how drug cartels work their business now. Load up half a truck with drugs and half with merchandise and take the fast lane to America. It is too easy to gets drugs across because Mexico does not do anything about it. They need to crack down on their citizens to help us, but they won't because their government officials are paid by the drug cartels. Mexico has one of the largest gaps between wealth and poverty. Sad, but all of this will never end… Greed will always prevail

Tim Jones wrote:

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I guess you did not read the Ontario article. All of the suspects were Hispanic... and in case you have not realized, Meth is wide-spread through Hispanic populations as well. Go check out El Monte, Baldwin Park, West Covina, Ontario. Drugs in general are destroying america but only because of drug users. Supply and Demand.
Does anyone on here really know the truth about anything? Mexico is the #1 supplier of Meth to the US. If you own a business and can prove legitimate business with Mexico you can get a card that you swipe when you cross at the border. SO when you drive across you get into a lane (fast lane) and swipe your card so that your business is not hurt by waiting in line.... The downfall… Homeland Security cannot stop and randomly inspect the truck like they can any other vehicle that enters our borders. This is how drug cartels work their business now. Load up half a truck with drugs and half with merchandise and take the fast lane to America. It is too easy to gets drugs across because Mexico does not do anything about it. They need to crack down on their citizens to help us, but they won't because their government officials are paid by the drug cartels. Mexico has one of the largest gaps between wealth and poverty. Sad, but all of this will never end… Greed will always prevail

Americans send $40 billion a year to Mexican Drug Cartels a year. Supply and Demand go hand in hand. I hope your not only blaming Mexico. Americans are also unable to gain control of its own domestically manufactured drug problem let alone what easily enters from Mexico.

Americas drug addiction is what causes gangs, crime, murder, and congestion of our court system as well as jails. Americans need to stop the addiction. It makes sense to blame Mexico as allot of the drugs come from their but as any drug dealer will tell you, they don't look for addicts, the addicts look for them. Even AA and NA programs teach people that the drug dealer will always be at the corner dangling drugs in front of you. Drugs don't go away but people can stop doing drugs.

Guess what else they make at Meth Labs ECSTASY that's what . Now that San Bernardino is the Rave Party capitol of America of course the producers of the drugs used at the Raves will go where the users are. On any given weekend there are thousands of kids using Ecstasy, LSD, Meth, Weed, PCP and other drugs at these Rave party's in San Bernardino. Everyone knows it goes on but no one seems to want to do anything about it its shocking. The Hudson Theater is the biggest culprit of these Raves. If the people really understood how many kids (as young as 12) were Rolling (doing Ecstasy) at these party's all night there would a big outcry to ban them. Look into Raves yourself check out plurlife.com and look at a few profiles and you will see how bad the problem is.

Now here is something that is a major problem. Maybe if someone had the common sense to concentrate on getting rid of this destructive poison instead of bothering with a harmless plant, we might be much better off. Enforcement should be told to leave pot alone and go after meth. We need someone with the balls to make better decisions.

concerned parent wrote:

Guess what else they make at Meth Labs ECSTASY that's what . Now that San Bernardino is the Rave Party capitol of America of course the producers of the drugs used at the Raves will go where the users are. On any given weekend there are thousands of kids using Ecstasy, LSD, Meth, Weed, PCP and other drugs at these Rave party's in San Bernardino. Everyone knows it goes on but no one seems to want to do anything about it its shocking. The Hudson Theater is the biggest culprit of these Raves. If the people really understood how many kids (as young as 12) were Rolling (doing Ecstasy) at these party's all night there would a big outcry to ban them. Look into Raves yourself check out plurlife.com and look at a few profiles and you will see how bad the problem is.

Being concerned about our kids is great. Perpetuating the drug problem by keeping them highly profitable is counterproductive. We need to get the profits out of drugs and get the drugs out of the hands of criminals. These good faith prohibition efforts by propagandized parents have done nothing over the decades but make things worse. A good first step would be to separate pot from drugs. Pot is basically harmless, and kids might think that drugs are harmless too after being lied to about pot. Doing the same thing over and over expecting different results is one of the classic signs of insanity. It's time to really solve this problem and actually do something to protect our kids. Don't be on the stupid side of this issue.

Give it time and the Mexican drug traffickers will try and wipe out the mom and pop Nascar meth lab operators. Mexican drug cartels are like the Home Depot of drugs, its just a matter of time before they shoot, kill and maim their competition. Granted the slimy Mexicans deal largely in marijuana, cociane and heroin but I am sure their going to want to pursue the trailer trash market that spends billions each year on meth.

Bruce:
No offence but I don't think any drug is good for kids under 18 not even smoking. These Raves are a place for kids to do there drugs without fear of getting in any trouble. Most of the underage kids are at the Raves without there parents permission. If you don't agree with me that's fine. "We need to get the profits out of drugs and get the drugs out of the hands of criminals". We need to get the drugs out of the hands of children and criminals. Whatever your opinion is on Pot its still not good for Children. Pot is the least of our problems in the Inland Empire. Our kids are doing harder and harder drugs the more they all Rave. The more Raves in San Bernardino the more the kids experiment with more and harder drugs.

concerned parent wrote:

Bruce:
No offence but I don't think any drug is good for kids under 18 not even smoking. These Raves are a place for kids to do there drugs without fear of getting in any trouble. Most of the underage kids are at the Raves without there parents permission. If you don't agree with me that's fine. "We need to get the profits out of drugs and get the drugs out of the hands of criminals". We need to get the drugs out of the hands of children and criminals. Whatever your opinion is on Pot its still not good for Children. Pot is the least of our problems in the Inland Empire. Our kids are doing harder and harder drugs the more they all Rave. The more Raves in San Bernardino the more the kids experiment with more and harder drugs.

I think we agree in principle, but maybe not in methods. I do not want children smoking pot either. I certainly do not want them having access to drugs. I feel strongly that if drugs were not profitable, they would be more scarce. I look back to the past when our country had little or no drug problem. What went wrong? Making drugs profitable and thereby popular is what went wrong. It was a very stupid move. Now we are left the painful task of undoing that stupidity. It will not be easy, but we need to do it for our children.

Legalize and regulate marijuana and psychedelics. That is the only way to keep them out of the hands of children. Adults can make their own choices about using drugs.

Dangerous, hard drugs like crack, heroin and methamphetamine won't ever be regulated by the government but demand for hard drugs will be reduced simply by legalizing softer drugs.

There are also some mid-level drugs that could be legalized to further control the dangerous illegal drug market. If pure cocaine was legalized and opium dens were allowed, the government would eliminate crack and heroin while maintaining jobs for farmers of poppy and coca plants.

These new legalized drugs would require age 21 to purchase and would have warning labels. Limits could be placed on the amount sold at one time.

That is the best way to end the drug war.

These tweakers will show up in emergency rooms, hearts beyond repair, at young ages. Tragic.