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Oct 31, 2009 | Posted by: roboblogger

University of Pittsburgh sees largest fall in assets in school's history

Full story: Pittsburgh Tribune

The University of Pittsburgh suffered the largest decline of net assets in the school's history in fiscal year 2009, said school spokesman John Fedele.

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Since: Jan 07

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Nov 1, 2009
 
And these are the people who train our young in the fine arts of finance and investment? Perhaps if they were required to make it on their own without the "government" they would be a bit smarter.

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Nov 1, 2009
 
Old Cynic wrote:
And these are the people who train our young in the fine arts of finance and investment? Perhaps if they were required to make it on their own without the "government" they would be a bit smarter.
Good gawd, man! Did you miss the historic, world-wide and so very deep economic recession crafted by Da'Dubya Bush and the Republican majority over the past twelve years, six of which were on Bush's eight year watch? It was in all the newspapers.

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Nov 1, 2009
 
Krakus wrote:
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Good gawd, man! Did you miss the historic, world-wide and so very deep economic recession crafted by Da'Dubya Bush and the Republican majority over the past twelve years, six of which were on Bush's eight year watch? It was in all the newspapers.
I would have thought that the brilliant tenured minds in academia would have insulated their gifts and endowments from a little bit of the natural ups and downs in every economy. I only have an eighth grade education but realized early on what was happening and saved 80% of my nest egg. They, by their own credentials, should have been much smarter that me.

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Nov 1, 2009
 
Old Cynic wrote:
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I would have thought that the brilliant tenured minds in academia would have insulated their gifts and endowments from a little bit of the natural ups and downs in every economy. I only have an eighth grade education but realized early on what was happening and saved 80% of my nest egg. They, by their own credentials, should have been much smarter that me.
And if you'd read the article, old man, you'd have noted that Pitt's net assests only dropped by 17%, and the endowment by $22%. So they did no worse than you claim to have done; obviously you're smarter than you think. And credentials alone do not guarantee performance, something I would have thought a cynic would understand. Also, large universities, with their substantial and complexly varied portfolio of assets, must be managed by professionals. Unfortunately, the greedy fools on Wall Street were freed from needed regulation by the "free-market" Republicans that would have curbed their avarice and compelled a modicum of prudence, and so the world economy was brought down.

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Nov 2, 2009
 
Krakus wrote:
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And if you'd read the article, old man, you'd have noted that Pitt's net assests only dropped by 17%, and the endowment by $22%. So they did no worse than you claim to have done; obviously you're smarter than you think. And credentials alone do not guarantee performance, something I would have thought a cynic would understand. Also, large universities, with their substantial and complexly varied portfolio of assets, must be managed by professionals. Unfortunately, the greedy fools on Wall Street were freed from needed regulation by the "free-market" Republicans that would have curbed their avarice and compelled a modicum of prudence, and so the world economy was brought down.
You do know, of course, that a "professional" stands on street corners and wears funny looking stockings and sells sex for money. If academia wants to deal with them, so be it. I just always thought they were much smarter than that. Question? What has the current administration changed as to investment criteria? Other than lip service, the actual "big" money is still very free with the rules and regs being put on the little investor (relatively speaking).

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Nov 3, 2009
 
Old Cynic wrote:
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You do know, of course, that a "professional" stands on street corners and wears funny looking stockings and sells sex for money. If academia wants to deal with them, so be it. I just always thought they were much smarter than that. Question? What has the current administration changed as to investment criteria? Other than lip service, the actual "big" money is still very free with the rules and regs being put on the little investor (relatively speaking).
Go to a university commencement exercise and you'll see much odder costumes on some of the academics, so maybe that's why the "professionals" appeal to them. In a similar vein, do you know the definition of an "expert?" Someone who knows more and more about less and less, until they know absolutely everything about nothing! My point? They surely aren't smarter! And you're also right that not enough has been doen to restore an adequate and necessary amount of regulation of our financial institutions and markets. The conservatives fear what Obama might do something of what he promised, and the progressives are afraid he won't do any of what he promised. I guess he's succeeded in being a moderate in practice, so far!.

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Nov 3, 2009
 
Krakus wrote:
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Go to a university commencement exercise and you'll see much odder costumes on some of the academics, so maybe that's why the "professionals" appeal to them. In a similar vein, do you know the definition of an "expert?" Someone who knows more and more about less and less, until they know absolutely everything about nothing! My point? They surely aren't smarter! And you're also right that not enough has been doen to restore an adequate and necessary amount of regulation of our financial institutions and markets. The conservatives fear what Obama might do something of what he promised, and the progressives are afraid he won't do any of what he promised. I guess he's succeeded in being a moderate in practice, so far!.
I have a son who went through all those "societies" at University and the costumes, robes, and colors were, at best, interesting, impractical, and meaningful only to those who aspired to the various ranks, chairs and positions known mostly to themselves. Commencement is so very tame compared to some of the other rituals and excuses for self praise that I wonder why these learned folks need this crap at all.
As to Obama, he finds himself between a rock and a hard place. His promises overloaded his ability to deliver. His concepts made sense when he was outside throwing stones, but now that he owns the process, the real world is measuring him and he is very uncomfortable. His inexperience is showing, his circle of advisors were poorly chosen and the office, by it's very nature insulates him from the day to day pain of the real world. He is classic example of the "Peter Principle". You will rise to the level of your own incompetency fits Obama to a "T".

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Nov 3, 2009
 
Old Cynic wrote:
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I have a son who went through all those "societies" at University and the costumes, robes, and colors were, at best, interesting, impractical, and meaningful only to those who aspired to the various ranks, chairs and positions known mostly to themselves. Commencement is so very tame compared to some of the other rituals and excuses for self praise that I wonder why these learned folks need this crap at all.
As to Obama, he finds himself between a rock and a hard place. His promises overloaded his ability to deliver. His concepts made sense when he was outside throwing stones, but now that he owns the process, the real world is measuring him and he is very uncomfortable. His inexperience is showing, his circle of advisors were poorly chosen and the office, by it's very nature insulates him from the day to day pain of the real world. He is classic example of the "Peter Principle". You will rise to the level of your own incompetency fits Obama to a "T".
The Peter Principle fails, however, to explain the presidency of Da'Dubya Bush; he was fully incompetent serving as Governor of Texas, yet progressed to higher office. Perhaps his election was the Peter principle's application to the conservative electorate itself.

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Nov 4, 2009
 
Krakus wrote:
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The Peter Principle fails, however, to explain the presidency of Da'Dubya Bush; he was fully incompetent serving as Governor of Texas, yet progressed to higher office. Perhaps his election was the Peter principle's application to the conservative electorate itself.
Bush was elected as an antidote to Clinton and Obama was elected as an antidote to Bush. The problem is that the pendulum swings wider and wider with each cycle. I fear that it's limits have been breached with Obama. One can only hope that common sense returns and the collective snake oil that they're trying to sell is finally seen to be pure BS by the electorate and we get back to work in this country. I for one am tired of the handouts and the constant care and feeding of millions of "slugs".
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Old Cynic wrote:
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Bush was elected as an antidote to Clinton and Obama was elected as an antidote to Bush.
Yep, that good ol' boy Bill Clinton actually restored surpluses to the federal budget in his last two years... and so we needed Da'Dubya's deficits as an "antidote" to Clinton's sound fiscal policy? Would you welcome Sarah Palin as the "antidote" to Obama? Good save America from the conservative voter.
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There was once a time in America when the people who had money also had brains because they were the ones that made the money...

We should do away with inhearitance....
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..or brains. OH! we did, we now have Obama to think for us.
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Thursday Dec 17
 
Yup, you know all those college educated folks sure were voting for McCain and the YouBetcha express. We surely had no intelligence over on the Obama side. You are so right "duh."
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