Veterans may salute flag

I'm so proud! This is much nicer and cheaper than having to take actual care of wounded veterans after they come home.

I am glad they did this for us veterans. We have been proud people all along and now we can show that we still are.

I honestly feel that veterans deserve more than they are getting and allowing them to use a military salute is a small gesture.

Ken Nicholson wrote:

I'm so proud! This is much nicer and cheaper than having to take actual care of wounded veterans after they come home.

WTF are you talking about? You don't think our veterans should be taken care of after they are home and released from their service? Explain.

Just another republican ploy to force people to SHOW respect for the flag. I for one will not put my hand over my heart when the anthem is played. I do not need to prove I am a patriot. Just the fact that I am running for president should be proof enough. Vote for CHANGE.

wildbill_4242 wrote:

<quoted text>WTF are you talking about? You don't think our veterans should be taken care of after they are home and released from their service? Explain.

I think it's called sarcasm. Of course they should be taken care of - but it's cheaper for politicians to give them something like this, then when the veterans say, "Now about that health care..." the pols can point out how hard they have already worked to get them something, and now they need to go help someone else...

House of Critters wrote:

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I think it's called sarcasm. Of course they should be taken care of - but it's cheaper for politicians to give them something like this, then when the veterans say, "Now about that health care..." the pols can point out how hard they have already worked to get them something, and now they need to go help someone else...

Thank-you for clearing it up a little. I just hate to see things written about our vets and the care they DON'T receive, after it was "promised" to them when they first signed up.

wildbill_4242 wrote:

<quoted text>Thank-you for clearing it up a little. I just hate to see things written about our vets and the care they DON'T receive, after it was "promised" to them when they first signed up.

I am not a veteran and appreciate those that are. I have often heard that health care was promised to them. Can someone please explain exactly what and how this was promised.

New Mexican wrote:

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I am not a veteran and appreciate those that are. I have often heard that health care was promised to them. Can someone please explain exactly what and how this was promised.

I know when I signed up and my brothers signed up before me, it was part of the "sales" pitch the recruiter gave you. Then looking into the benefits we were supposed to be given after retiring from the service it clearly stated we were to get X amount for our retirement pay, and health care for the rest of our lives. I know the benefits have changed many times in my 20 years of service as it did for many others, and we now get something completely different than what we were told at the beginning. I wish I still had all the "sales" papers the recruiter gave me back then, but after 20 years and 8 moves, things get misplaced.

wildbill_4242 wrote:

<quoted text>I know when I signed up and my brothers signed up before me, it was part of the "sales" pitch the recruiter gave you. Then looking into the benefits we were supposed to be given after retiring from the service it clearly stated we were to get X amount for our retirement pay, and health care for the rest of our lives. I know the benefits have changed many times in my 20 years of service as it did for many others, and we now get something completely different than what we were told at the beginning. I wish I still had all the "sales" papers the recruiter gave me back then, but after 20 years and 8 moves, things get misplaced.

It wouldnt matter if you had them or not. I completed 22 years and what I got was minimal to what I signed up for. The feds can violate your contract, you can't. You probably were told like many others, free healthcare and dental for your family for life, 50% of your base pay at retirement. That has all changed to, pay for your healthcare and 50% of your top three years. Many other changes have taken place.

Bottom line: VETERAN: An individual who currently or at one time wrote a blank check for a cost of up too and including their life. Some of which are not even old enough to drink alcohol. We have troops that are fighting for this country and are on WIC, food stamps, and Govt Assistance because the Govt is too damn cheap to pay them what they deserve. That is disgraceful. For all of those that think the military get gas, food, and housing for free....think again it is not true.

guest wrote:

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It wouldnt matter if you had them or not. I completed 22 years and what I got was minimal to what I signed up for. The feds can violate your contract, you can't. You probably were told like many others, free healthcare and dental for your family for life, 50% of your base pay at retirement. That has all changed to, pay for your healthcare and 50% of your top three years. Many other changes have taken place.
Bottom line: VETERAN: An individual who currently or at one time wrote a blank check for a cost of up too and including their life. Some of which are not even old enough to drink alcohol. We have troops that are fighting for this country and are on WIC, food stamps, and Govt Assistance because the Govt is too damn cheap to pay them what they deserve. That is disgraceful. For all of those that think the military get gas, food, and housing for free....think again it is not true.

I know it doesn't matter that I have them or not. I get what I get and thats it. I have a saying I told my kids when they were smaller, "You get what you get and don't throw a fit." Kind of the same here. I know/knew what I was getting throughout the years that is why I did my 20 and got out. Do I regret doing it? Not for a minute, I'd do it again if I had to. It would be harder this time, but I would do it.

House of Critters wrote:

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I think it's called sarcasm. Of course they should be taken care of - but it's cheaper for politicians to give them something like this, then when the veterans say, "Now about that health care..." the pols can point out how hard they have already worked to get them something, and now they need to go help someone else...

Excellent point! As a veteran myself, whether an individual wants to the salute the flag, stand at attention when the Anthem is played, or sit down in protest, the free and unconstrained right to do so, among other rights, is exactly what all veterans served for and, in many cases, died for.
I'm proud to be a veteran and thankful for all those that serve and have served, but why is the Government telling us or allowing us, as free citizens, how we should pay respect? What's next? Will the Government set standards on how we pay our taxes, educated and raise our children, or when we can use the restroom? Ooops, too late. The less Government intrusion into our private lives and personal views, the better. I don't need, nor want the Government telling me whether its ok for me to salute the flag! If I want to salute it, I will, whether there's a law that makes it "acceptable" or not is of no consequence to me.

Obama wrote:

Just another republican ploy to force people to SHOW respect for the flag. I for one will not put my hand over my heart when the anthem is played. I do not need to prove I am a patriot. Just the fact that I am running for president should be proof enough. Vote for CHANGE.

Well said Mr. Obama, but I detect sarcasm. What is just another Republican ploy is this piece of legistlation, which was sponsored and introduced by, yep, a Rebulican. Surely, that same party, and both parties for that matter, could spend their time on much better things to benefit veterans, such as better health care for our wounded and our retired veterans. What about better pay and non-pay benefits for our active and discharged service members? These sorts of issues are ones that Senator John Mc has routinely and consistely voted against. A law to approve of saluting the flag? Give me a break.

Another Veteran wrote:

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Well said Mr. Obama, but I detect sarcasm. What is just another Republican ploy is this piece of legistlation, which was sponsored and introduced by, yep, a Rebulican. Surely, that same party, and both parties for that matter, could spend their time on much better things to benefit veterans, such as better health care for our wounded and our retired veterans. What about better pay and non-pay benefits for our active and discharged service members? These sorts of issues are ones that Senator John Mc has routinely and consistely voted against. A law to approve of saluting the flag? Give me a break.

Good for you you, I hope I can count on your Vote this November. Vote for CHANGE. Vote for CHANGE you can believe in.

Long overdue! I will be proud to "comply".

Someone please send this on flag etiquette article to Mr. Obama.

Another Veteran wrote:

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Well said Mr. Obama, but I detect sarcasm. What is just another Republican ploy is this piece of legistlation, which was sponsored and introduced by, yep, a Rebulican. Surely, that same party, and both parties for that matter, could spend their time on much better things to benefit veterans, such as better health care for our wounded and our retired veterans. What about better pay and non-pay benefits for our active and discharged service members? These sorts of issues are ones that Senator John Mc has routinely and consistely voted against. A law to approve of saluting the flag? Give me a break.

I do have one correction for you, lets not give the credit for this bill to REPUBLICANS, this bill was sponsored by by my Democratic colleague IKE SKELTON from Missouri,

Soldiers can quit whining, get jobs and work for their healthcare like everyone else. Providing veterans' hospitals is socialized medicine. We don't need any socialists around here.

Boo soldiers wrote:

Soldiers can quit whining, get jobs and work for their healthcare like everyone else. Providing veterans' hospitals is socialized medicine. We don't need any socialists around here.

Let me guess, you never served a day in the US military and still want to talk $hit. What have you done for your country EVER? Until you can do anything close to what a veteran can say they did, shut your fricken mouth.

Boo soldiers wrote:

Soldiers can quit whining, get jobs and work for their healthcare like everyone else. Providing veterans' hospitals is socialized medicine. We don't need any socialists around here.

You're right and you're wrong, BS. Veteran's hospitals do not provide the healthcare that our veterans deserve. But they work hard for their healthcare, perhaps more than anyone else. And they put it all on the line to protect your sorry butt. So you're in that we don't need socialized medicine. Everything else you said, well it's just bs.