Murder in Loch Sheldrake

My thoughts on this topic is another black man comitting another crime my heart aches 4 this woman and her family.she might have had a drug problem but did not deserve to die.

If he killed ashley maybe he killed carl williams too.the guy was from monticello .lets keep this killer in jail and pray 4 ashley and her family.rip ashley

just another un-educated punk and a girl with not the greatest family life. happens every day.

Gina, what does race have to do with it? I personally dislike him very much but don't think being openly racist is the answer. No matter if you are black or white the comment was bias. RIP Ashley.

gina, he did not kill carl williams.... carl williams was my next door neighbors cousin and it was not drug related! my husband is black gina, so maybe he did it! or better yet my kids are mixed...maybe they had something to do with it! you really shouldn't judge other people, cause you are not any better than they are by makming racist remarks like that! may god rest all there souls and please help gina's!

Non-bias wrote:

Gina, what does race have to do with it? I personally dislike him very much but don't think being openly racist is the answer. No matter if you are black or white the comment was bias. RIP Ashley.

white men r criminals 2 and i agree.that was wrong 4 me to say that and im sorry 4 that comment

jmw wrote:

gina, he did not kill carl williams.... carl williams was my next door neighbors cousin and it was not drug related! my husband is black gina, so maybe he did it! or better yet my kids are mixed...maybe they had something to do with it! you really shouldn't judge other people, cause you are not any better than they are by makming racist remarks like that! may god rest all there souls and please help gina's!

i am sorry 4 that comment i was angry and have no right to judge im sorry

I am sorry 4 the black comment i made.i have no right to judge anyone.please forgive me

jmw wrote:

gina, he did not kill carl williams.... carl williams was my next door neighbors cousin and it was not drug related! my husband is black gina, so maybe he did it! or better yet my kids are mixed...maybe they had something to do with it! you really shouldn't judge other people, cause you are not any better than they are by makming racist remarks like that! may god rest all there souls and please help gina's!

i didnt know carl and didnt say it was drug related.from what i heard carl was a family man and alot of people looked up to him.im sorry 4 my stupid comment

apologies should always be accepted...but only if the person really means it. if they say it and don't mean it, then they are living one big lie! gina if you say you are sorry then may god forgive you and anyone who has read that slick remark you made. in these hard times we need to come together and not descriminate or hate people for who or what they are, but instead, help them if we do not like the sitauation they are in. put ytour negative energy towards something more positive that you can be proud of. you'll feel ten times better putting your energy into something positive than doing something negative. i've done it myself gina, and you should try it too.... you have nothing to lose accept that negativity that you spread around bringing others down. like i said...your apology is accepted, but do something with this negative situation to turn it into a positive one. and i'm curious to see how it turns out, so please post a response when you do so, so that eveyone can see that you are making an effort to change your not so nice ways. i'd be one of the first to congratulate you if you do so.

I am really sorry for the racist comment i made.it was wrong and i feel guilty and im disgusted with myself for saying it.i hope you all forgive me.im not saying im sorry just to say it im telling yov all im sorry because i mean it

I will not judge a person by their color im sorry if i offended carls family or friends i heard he was a cool guy.i wish i knew him may he rip i promise to do my part to make the world a better place thanx jmw 4 waking me up

we all are human and make mistakes forgive and live gina i forgive you

I heard this all before. Who among you never made an anti-Semetic or anti-Latino or anti-whomever remark? Are you all that righteous? We will never get anywhere positive in improving race relations if we don't openly discussion the social problems our community suffers from

i completely agree! everyone makes mistakes and deserves to be forgiven, but also needs to not forget their mistake but better themselves from it. the world would be a better place if we all put out differences aside to help others in need instead of just sitting back and waiting for someone else to do the dirty work. become a role model for those kids and adults that we tend to judge. and lead them in the right direction to better themselves and the world that they will be a big part of in the future.

OYM wrote:

I heard this all before. Who among you never made an anti-Semetic or anti-Latino or anti-whomever remark? Are you all that righteous? We will never get anywhere positive in improving race relations if we don't openly discussion the social problems our community suffers from

A teenaged girl was recently killed in the Bronx by reputed gang members. She was believed to be an innocent bystander. A group of polital activists reportedly held a rally "protesting" the girl's murder and they supposedly attempted communicating to the community that they should not murder each other.

Questions to ponder: Why and what are they protesting? It's sort of like protesting the weather. Or the Yankees winning the World Series. Or whatever. It implies that someone (or something) other themselves are in control and are responsible for the murder. Responsibility is the answer. Why would you have to "teach" people not to murder and how would you do it? Why do you suppose people have to be taught not to steal, kill, use/sell drugs, etc.? Perhaps these values are not as universal as many people would like to think. Poverty and crime is not as strongly linked as many people are brainwashed to believe. That claim is often nothing more than a cover/excuse for people. "It's not their fault-they're poor/they come from broken homes/they're discriminated against"/etc., etc. How do you change values of people who truly don't value life? Pretending everyone is basically the same gets us no where.

Ultimately a human being was murdered. Let's not lose sight of that. Some cultures value life above all. Which is the bigger crime? The murder itself or referring to the accused murderer as a "black" man? How convenient to play the "race card". Would the people who expressd anger at the initial poster be willing to eliminate affirmitive action programs which would allow everyone be judged on their own merits instead of the color of their skin? I doubt it. If you keep on pretending thgat there are no problems in the black community we will get no where.Or is it taht many of the posters really don't believe there is a problem to begin with?

, and would and how do you teach people I also agree with you. L

jmw wrote:

i completely agree! everyone makes mistakes and deserves to be forgiven, but also needs to not forget their mistake but better themselves from it. the world would be a better place if we all put out differences aside to help others in need instead of just sitting back and waiting for someone else to do the dirty work. become a role model for those kids and adults that we tend to judge. and lead them in the right direction to better themselves and the world that they will be a big part of in the future.
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Gina was right another black person from africa commiting crimer.its always black people commiting crimes.i think all blacks should go back 2 africa.you cant change how we feel

I'D ALSO LIKE TO GIVE YOU SOME HOMEWORK TO STUDY UP ON, SINCE YOU SEEM TO THINK THAT ONLY BLACKS ARE CAPABLE OF COMMITTING CRIME: WHO ARE ALL THESE PEOPLE I MENTION? PHILIP JENKINS, QUINCY ALLEN, TIMOTHY MCVEY, TED BUNDY, I CAN GO ON AND ON. ALSO HERE'S A LINK TO CHECK OUT: http://www.mayhem.net/Crime/serial1.html

jenny elliot wrote:

Gina was right another black person from africa commiting crimer.its always black people commiting crimes.i think all blacks should go back 2 africa.you cant change how we feel

I think this kind of thread will not help race relations. Denial is a big problem. What good does it do if the community ignores FBI reports that documents blacks are seven times as likely than whites to commit murder? If we become defensive and deny such facts we will never be able to explore the real underlying reasons why that is so. And because we develop dialogue , stereotypes flourish because people develop their own ideas.