Proxy wedding means Marine's widow, baby unwelcome

shine4me wrote:

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"Honor" is remembering what side of the Border your allegiance is. Yes, there are still Borders and being an American means having allegiance to your Country.

Rico from East Los wrote:

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If the Mom and child were Mexican, these bigots would be bitching that the mom was looking for a way to milk the system or some Mexican hating crap.
Give that Mom and her baby citizenship, the damn father died for this bigot Country for heavens sake.

White American wrote:

<quoted text>What you lack to see is the fact that one can have allegiance to America yet also see the abuses of the current immigration system.
Because something is the law that doesn't mean that it should be. Nor does it mean that the law shouldn't be changed.
Honor means respect or esteem for another. There are no borders.

shine4me wrote:

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We have a law that says breaking and entering into your neighbor's home is illegal. Would you like to have that obeyed / or not? Do you think we should pick and choose which ones we want obeyed? A world w/o borders is a truly wonderful world - but not in this lifetime.

White American wrote:

<quoted text>Because I would want one law enforced doesn't make it automatic that I would want ones enforced that I and many others feel are wrong.
Like the FEMA Camps if they were ever used to lock up Americans that speak their mind I would not want that law enforced if it were made law. Because something is law doesn't make it something that people shouldn't speak out about and try to get it changed it they feel it is wrong.
Just as you are speaking out and saying they should be enforced.
Why would you say a life without borders is a wonderful thing but not in this lifetime. I'm not for no borders, but on the other hand I will say that we have states that have borders and they allow people to freely go from state to state. That hasn't compromised the sovereignty of any of those states. They do set their own state laws now don't they. What harm has that caused?

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shine4me wrote:

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Why are WE (Americans) considered "bigots" for wanting people to have respect for our laws in OUR OWN COUNTRY? That is a point "pro-illegal" supporters don't get. It is not the "face" that makes someone here illegally. It is the ACTIONS of those breaking our laws.

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White American wrote:

<quoted text>What you lack to see is the fact that one can have allegiance to America yet also see the abuses of the current immigration system.
Because something is the law that doesn't mean that it should be. Nor does it mean that the law shouldn't be changed.
Honor means respect or esteem for another. There are no borders.

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Rico from East Los wrote:

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You're so polluted. Goto any criminal court house and tell me how many freaking Americans who don't have respect for the laws.
Here you try to preach to me about Americans demanding respect for the damn law while our Nations court houses are over flowing with American law breakers.
Please, you're playing the world's saddest song on the world's smallest violin.

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FedUpWithIllegals wrote:

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There are no borders? PUHLEEZE. IT IS PRECISELY BECAUSE HUMAN BEINGS DEFINE THEIR BORDERS THAT THEY GAIN RESPECT. Have you not realized at your age that respect is not granted, but gained?
If you honor someone, that means you respect that person's borders (emotionally, psychologically, physically, spiritually, intellectually, etc) and don't cross them. AND THE ONLY WAY YOU KNOW YOU HAVE CROSSED SOMEONE'S BORDERS IS BECAUSE THAT PERSON HAD ALREADY EXPRESSED THEM. THAT takes guts. But THAT also is worth the risk. So if you know where someone's border is and yet you insist on crossing it, then that means DISRESPECT.
The same is true with countries -- which are simply macrocosms of individuals gathered together for protection, trade, and peace. In this day and age, all countries HAVE BORDERS. HELLOOOO. Ever heard of maps??
These borders are delineated, agreed-upon, expressed and mapped. When these borders are breached by a foreign nation, it is a cause for WAR.
You have no expertise in human nature and history, do you? Your posts can easily be shredded to nothingness. Maybe this is why your rating is so low.

shine4me wrote:

You got it right. "Respect is given to those that have earned it by their actions and beliefs....."
No respect can be given to people who act and believe they should have a right to lie, steal, and cheat, their way to citizenship in the United States of America.
Americans have the right to expect our laws enforced until those laws are changed. No foreign invaders, or their corrupt supporters, should have any say in our laws being changed.

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Rebel wrote:

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Get your head out of your anal orifice.
We don't care if she's Mexican. We want ILLEGAL ALIENS -- all of them -- to go home. We don't care where they're from. The fact is, though, the VAST MAJORITY are from Mexico, and those are also the ones making a big stink, which is why you hear about them more.
If the majority were Asian and they were running around in our streets making a big stink, you'd hear more about them.
It's common sense that you hear about the largest problem the most. To think otherwise shows your ignorance and ridiculous attitude.

White American wrote:

<quoted text>All Americans have a say in if a law is changed or not. Even if you call them corrupt supporters, they are your fellow Americans.

shine4me wrote:

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You are right. Nowadays though, it seems like anyone can call themself an "American". Law-abiding Americans *should* be the only people in this Country who have a say in the making of our laws. People who support others who are breaking our laws can be considered traitors.
traitor = a person who betrays another, a cause, or any trust
Yes, you can argue that some of our "law-makers" are "law-breakers" and not the most honest "Americans" walking around. That simply isn't my point here. Laws should be obeyed until they are changed - by American voters.
Do you know any criminals behind bars that are allowed to vote while incarcerated? They (the majority) are "Americans". Why do you think they are not deemed eligible to vote? Voter "fraud" is a dangerous occurrence in this Country and we can't protect our *democracy* w/o laws. That's just IMO.