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La Habra, CA
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Close friend wrote: Corrections: Karen has never sued anyone. JA Nobody said she sued anyone. The VIP's and Edwardz' deserve each other. They all bonded over wanting an eastside fire station which was a noble cause. George, leading Karen, agressivley attacked former city manager Bates, former fire chief and former city councilmember Millsap just for sport. Karen and George sent untrue hateful emails around town and made wild accusations at council meetings for over a year. They, especially Karen and Howard didn't even know these folks. George, Karen and Howard all owe these folks an apology even though they have moved on. It's George, Karen and Howard who should have been sued for slander years ago but lucky for them their victims had more class.
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Resident 2 wrote: <quoted text> The Vippermans are using their position and money to subvert open government and free speech. His fellow councilmembers are unable or unwilling, to stop him. So, a higher enforcement agency is needed to maintain the rule of law in the City. That is why I called the DA.
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Close friend wrote: Corrections: Karen has never sued anyone. The letter mentioned to the city was actually to the ex-fire chief, Nielsen. When Karen was working with other East side residents to try to get the church location reactivated as a fire station, Nielsen sent out an e-mail to the city manager at that time, telling a lie about the action that Karen had taken and implicated Howard. Howard wasn't involved in the conversation Karen had with the church. Karen had an attorney send a cease and desist letter to the chief. It was an action to help get the East side station re-opened. In fact, there have been many incidents in her life that she could have sued and many people would have and she didn't. One example: A neighbor's dog mauled her 18 mos. old son and Karen took no action. That mauling left her son scarred for life. Car accident that was someone elses fault. No suit. So, as usual, the few participants on this site lie and exaggerate truths. The Vipperman's have never sued anyone in this city for anything. Howard and Karen's businesses are doing fine. So the lie about business going bankrupt. Just another lie to spread rumors. The issues about the radios. The business of those involved in the suit. The facts will surface as the suit progresses. George and Blagden write really nasty things about many people and organizations in this community. To paint them as innocent victims who get picked on is a little silly and not very believable. Many people in this community are afraid of them because they know they could get horrible things written about them on this website. Are the Vipperman's terribly upset by this stuff. No. I know them quite well and they just consider the source. They are actually very busy in their lives with their own business and families. Karen stated to me about this. Life is good. Our children are healthy. Our grandchildren are beautiful and healthy. Our businesses are picking up. The few people that want to hurt us are people who just seem to enjoy this sort of thing. We aren't perfect, but we do sincerely want to serve our community and will continue to do so. I'm sure this entry will elicit some very spirited, nasty response. That's fine. I don't read it anyway, nor does any of the respectable people of the community that we know. No one I know wants to fight, just this few. JA You DO read it and you sound like Mrs. Mayor or Mrs. Mayor's puppet. Pull out the archives and listen and take a look. You could be eating crow. These Vipperman's are bad news and full of hate and superior control. They want to burn anyone who protests them; even in democratic negotiations. A mayor has stooped to the lowest level of humanity buy suing a resident who challenges his integrity. Which, by the way the DA also questions. You must have some kind of financial gain with the Vipsters, that is too spirted and obvious. Bet you are the wife our of spineless leader Mr. Howard Vipperstabyouinthebackman. Or in the least, a paid slave.
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Dont Be Stupid
Pico Rivera, CA
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Resident 2 wrote: <quoted text> The Vippermans are using their position and money to subvert open government and free speech. How are they any different from President Obama raming health care down our throats and attempting to silence Fox News? Just normal geovenment operations under liberals. Y'all need to vote new blood into office. This old coot has been there past his expiration date.
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Close friend wrote: Corrections:
The issues about the radios. The business of those involved in the suit. The facts will surface as the suit progresses.
George and Blagden write really nasty things about many people and organizations in this community. To paint them as innocent victims who get picked on is a little silly and not very believable. Many people in this community are afraid of them because they know they could get horrible things written about them on this website. JA The Vipperman’s not only SAY “really nasty things,” they DO really nasty things. Do you reaequate writing (on an obscure internet website)“really nasty things” about someone with filing a false and malicious election law complaint against one opponent, filing a false and malicious lawsuit against another opponent, and having your attorney write a threatening letter to a third? Are you serious? The issues in a dispute between two people are usually nobody‘s business. When one of them files a lawsuit, the “issues“ became everyone’s business. Do you really believe that when a mayor sues a resident of his city, other residents shouldn’t be concerned about the issues involved? When it turns out that a mayor is using lawsuits and the threat of lawsuits to silence his political opposition, ALL Americans should be concerned.
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Volunteer wrote: <quoted text> The Vipperman’s not only SAY “really nasty things,” they DO really nasty things. Do you reaequate writing (on an obscure internet website)“really nasty things” about someone with filing a false and malicious election law complaint against one opponent, filing a false and malicious lawsuit against another opponent, and having your attorney write a threatening letter to a third? Are you serious? The issues in a dispute between two people are usually nobody‘s business. When one of them files a lawsuit, the “issues“ became everyone’s business. Do you really believe that when a mayor sues a resident of his city, other residents shouldn’t be concerned about the issues involved? When it turns out that a mayor is using lawsuits and the threat of lawsuits to silence his political opposition, ALL Americans should be concerned. Thank you. Yes, I am VERY concerned. I cannot believe that a Mayor, would stoop so low on numerous occasions in attempts to "ruin" opposition. When one becomes a "public" figure they are subject to scrutiny in a democracy. In LHH, when one voices opposition to our Mayor, they become a target of revenge, and victim of terror by the terrorist, which in this case is the Mayor and his wife. This is unheard of. Vipperman became a public figure. Yet he refuses to allow the public to voice their opinions without a threat of ruin. This man is dangerous to our community, it's citizen's and anyone who may hold a different opinion than his. What a scumbag we have as a mayor.
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pam
Parker, AZ
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Dont Be Stupid wrote: If a guy on my block bought a fire truck, and used it to help the neighbors, he should be a hero. Instead in this little burg the city, the fire department, the cops are all jealous because a guy want to contribute. They all need to buck up and start doing some real work. What kind of an idiot would buy a fire truck? If he wants to help so much he should donate it to the city instead of letting them borrow it. I don't get it. What purpose would someone want to buy a firetruck? I realize it is a rural area but he certainly doesn't need his own fire truck. He just wants a pat on the back.
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LHH Resident
La Habra, CA
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pam wrote: <quoted text> What kind of an idiot would buy a fire truck? If he wants to help so much he should donate it to the city instead of letting them borrow it. I don't get it. What purpose would someone want to buy a firetruck? I realize it is a rural area but he certainly doesn't need his own fire truck. He just wants a pat on the back. It is a small fire truck for brush attacks. He did try to donate it to the city, but they didn't want it. If he has the money and desire to have one, why not? I guess if the Vippermans had donated their fire truck, they'd sue to get it back if someone said something they disagreed with.
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This Kind of Idiot
Whittier, CA
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Are you talking about Mayor Vipperman that bought his own fire truck or the other guy who tried to donate his fire truck to the city, but was refused.
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outsider
La Mirada, CA
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All this is the same @#%* EdwardZZZZZZ/ Lamas or what ever he calls him self is a wanabe he wants test scores lowered to accomidate his need to PLAY FIREFIGHTER.(buck up george go to an state cerified academy ie Santa Ana Sac or RIO LACOFD explore does not count then try you could probaly be ok. The Mayor used Goerge to get political gain and dumped his %&#@ when his usefulness ran out. The Mayors buisness is contributing to LA Habra not the Heightsdon't think moneys is the problem here. GEORGE can't you see they used you to take all the heat and made you the fool for these past years don't be thier puppet.
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OhReally
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outsider wrote: All this is the same @#%* EdwardZZZZZZ/ Lamas or what ever he calls him self is a wanabe he wants test scores lowered to accomidate his need to PLAY FIREFIGHTER.(buck up george go to an state cerified academy ie Santa Ana Sac or RIO LACOFD explore does not count then try you could probaly be ok. The Mayor used Goerge to get political gain and dumped his %&#@ when his usefulness ran out. The Mayors buisness is contributing to LA Habra not the Heightsdon't think moneys is the problem here. GEORGE can't you see they used you to take all the heat and made you the fool for these past years don't be thier puppet. How about you learn to spell too.
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Our Mayor, supports Mike Duvall the sexual pervert. Campaign Contributions to Duvall For Assemby, Mike HOWARD VIPPERMAN, LA HABRA, CA 90631, PRES./VIP RUBBER CO. 300, 2007-12-07, 2008 -01-31. HARRY CROWELL, IRVINE, CA 92614, PRES./THE INSCO DICO GROUP ... www.electiontrack.com/lookup.php... - Similar
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VIP FAN
Claremont, CA
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sexpervertpoliticians wrote: Our Mayor, supports Mike Duvall the sexual pervert. Campaign Contributions to Duvall For Assemby Since Howard supports perverts does that make him a pervert? What's that line: "Birds of a feather flock together"?
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Highlander
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sexpervertpoliticians wrote: Our Mayor, supports Mike Duvall the sexual pervert. Campaign Contributions to Duvall For Assemby, Mike HOWARD VIPPERMAN, LA HABRA, CA 90631, PRES./VIP RUBBER CO. 300, 2007-12-07, 2008 -01-31. HARRY CROWELL, IRVINE, CA 92614, PRES./THE INSCO DICO GROUP ... www.electiontrack.com/lookup.php... - Similar Come on. I am hardly a fan of the VIPs, but I am sure that if they knew the guy was a pervert, they would not have supported him. Sometimes, you only find out what sort of person a candidate is, after it is too late. This should be something that is painfully clear to the people of La Habra Heights -- especially to those who voted for the VIPs three years ago.
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Another Stupid Idiot
Brea, CA
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Highlander wrote: <quoted text> Come on. I am hardly a fan of the VIPs, but I am sure that if they knew the guy was a pervert, they would not have supported him. Sometimes, you only find out what sort of person a candidate is, after it is too late. This should be something that is painfully clear to the people of La Habra Heights -- especially to those who voted for the VIPs three years ago. How profound. Yes I was one of those "stupid" idiots that voted for Mr. Vipperman. I now find his character and integrity disgraceful. I also find this lawsuit against a citizen who may be controversial, and I found out a former supporter of Mr. Vipperman, absolutely without any integrity on the part of a Mayor who has no right to sue an indivual for defamation, when in fact he sits as a public figure. I can only hope that Mr. Vipperman loses his run for re-election based solely on his lack of integrity and lack of moral character. I hope the judge listening to this lawsuit filed by Mr. Vipperman slaps him with the most severe sanctions for a frivolous filing. After first hand evidence what Mr. Vipperman did to overtly disrupt a Fire Watch meeting that Mr. Edwards is involved in, I absolutely know he is no good and absoultely no good for our city.
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outsider
La Mirada, CA
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OHreally sorry for the spelling errors. However you must have been able to understand the point, by your smart and educated response.
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outsider
La Mirada, CA
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Another resident you are so correct. However this in-fighting is so distructful, There alot of good people who live in the heights. I find it disgraceful that these few bring such a blight to a great community. Problem is they only want whats best for them and hide behind a political shrowed saying they want what is best for all. No matter how you look at it each group will come in to power and just as quickly go away. It was once writen those who do not look to the past are bound to repeat it. The heights prides it self on a strong community base but it is not looked upon by other communities as anything more than a joke. The Good folks just want to live and enjoy family and friends I GUESS THERE COLATERAL DAMAGE IN THIS BATTLE. QUESTION FOR YOU. WHO WOULD YOU LIKE FOR MAYOR? BESIDE GEORGE.
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I Vote
La Habra, CA
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outsider wrote: Another resident you are so correct. However this in-fighting is so distructful, There alot of good people who live in the heights. I find it disgraceful that these few bring such a blight to a great community. Problem is they only want whats best for them and hide behind a political shrowed saying they want what is best for all. No matter how you look at it each group will come in to power and just as quickly go away. It was once writen those who do not look to the past are bound to repeat it. The heights prides it self on a strong community base but it is not looked upon by other communities as anything more than a joke. The Good folks just want to live and enjoy family and friends I GUESS THERE COLATERAL DAMAGE IN THIS BATTLE. QUESTION FOR YOU. WHO WOULD YOU LIKE FOR MAYOR? BESIDE GEORGE. Anybody would be better than Howard, his persona is such a "duh", not the sharpest tack.
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A real stupid voter
Brea, CA
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I Vote wrote: <quoted text>Anybody would be better than Howard, his persona is such a "duh", not the sharpest tack. I am so ashamed that I voted for Howard the terrible. The man is sleezy and untrustworthy. Who would of ever thought? But a lesson learned is far more valuable than the mistake. The man is corrupt, hateful, mean spirited, without a heart, and a disgrace to our city majority. He will have his comeuppance as we who voted for him has had ours with his leader/czarship. I personally want no part of his circle, his friends, his fellow politicians or his rules and laws. We all must remember, the arrogant, ignorant mayor is running again for city council.....you all who have been utterly disappointed, or the victim of revenge, must remember to vote against him. Tell your friends, neighbors and foes. Do the right thing, get him out of office once and for all.
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