At Least 3 Injured In Hayward Strip Mall Shooting

Jesus H. Christ! You aren't even safe at 4 o'clock in the afternoon in a busy shopping mall in Hayward anymore! Two groups of sub-moron punks shooting at each other in broad daylight! Thank God no innocent shoppers were not hit in the crossfire. Thank God those cops were there to put a quick end to the gunfire and capture several of the turds with legs punks who never should have been born. Of course you have that cultural rot called "gangsta rap" glorifying punks and thugs and gangs and condoning every uncivil and criminal act up to and including murder so I guess it's what we can expect. Welcome to life in Hayward in the 21st Century where walking piles of feces rule the streets and we've become prisoners in our own home. It's about time to call in the National Guard. If these turd-heads want a war it's about time to give it to them. Flush 'em down the toilet with the other turds!

It was a group of African American punks! Aren't you shocked...NOT! Probably the sons of bloated welfare queens and "my baby's daddy" fathers who abandoned mama and baby about the same time they pulled their penis out of her vagina! Got to go find another "hoe" or "bitch" to impregnate you know! And "it's all about respect!" say the people who defend these punks (gang members) and the irresponsible people that breed them. Uh huh! Yeah right! What garbage!

Where did the racist comments come from? What the hell do you know about the people arrested? I don't see anything that said ganster rap caused this fight. And being African American doesn't mean your mother is a baby momma. How dare YOU PUNKS!!!!!!

WTF wrote:

Where did the racist comments come from? What the hell do you know about the people arrested? I don't see anything that said ganster rap caused this fight. And being African American doesn't mean your mother is a baby momma. How dare YOU PUNKS!!!!!!

Oh eat my a--hole you shit defending moron! These worthless punks freaking pictures were on TV and all of them were African American! Nobody said gangsta rap caused this particular fight but their is no doubt that it is a substantial contributing factor to punks like these carrying weapons and trying to emulate their brain dead, illiterate, gun toting gangsta rap idols. The majority of black children are raised by single mothers and quite often their kids turn out to be shit, at least partly because "my baby's daddy" (how often do you hear that?) is missing in action! You probably aren't even familiar with the situation here in Hayward so just shut your mouth unless you have something intelligent to say and I seriously doubt that will ever be the case!

If you can, open your eyes to see that we are all brothers and sisters under God. What mother gives birth to a child and hopes that he/she will grow up to kill someone or to be murdered? NO MOTHER WANTS THAT!!! Mothers, unite! I don't care how old your child is. Will they ever cease to be your child? No. And you will never cease to be their mother. Take your responsibility seriously. "Because of the human fall, we have not seen God in the true sense. We have not been living with the true God. If we as mankind could have been one with God, with God as our Father, abiding in Him, living with Him in the greatest love, how happy we would have been! And on God's part, how happy He would have been to live with His true children. He, being the Highest in every sense, could have been overjoyed, with unimaginable happiness. He would have lived with us in the ultimate love...It is our great loss not to have been able to live with such a Father, from whom everything good and happy starts." - Rev. Sun Myung Moon

True Love wrote:

If you can, open your eyes to see that we are all brothers and sisters under God. What mother gives birth to a child and hopes that he/she will grow up to kill someone or to be murdered? NO MOTHER WANTS THAT!!! Mothers, unite! I don't care how old your child is. Will they ever cease to be your child? No. And you will never cease to be their mother. Take your responsibility seriously. "Because of the human fall, we have not seen God in the true sense. We have not been living with the true God. If we as mankind could have been one with God, with God as our Father, abiding in Him, living with Him in the greatest love, how happy we would have been! And on God's part, how happy He would have been to live with His true children. He, being the Highest in every sense, could have been overjoyed, with unimaginable happiness. He would have lived with us in the ultimate love...It is our great loss not to have been able to live with such a Father, from whom everything good and happy starts." - Rev. Sun Myung Moon

OH PLEASE! The lunatic ravings of a crazy Korean preacher are totally irrelevant here!

It amazes me the amount of ignorance that comes out of peoples mouths. I feel so sorry that you have decided to make such a horrible situation racial. Even if the shooters were african-american all of the comments were so uncalled for. You need to check the stats on the amount of white people on welfare and have "baby's daddy's" before you began your rant. I hope you dont have any children so that this sheer ignorance can end with you. Please try to do better with yourself

Did you even graduate from high school?

ok where the f**k diid thiis baby mama and baby daddy shiit come from? iin my opiiniion that has nothiing to do wiith the siituatiion and just because they were afriican ameriican dont mean a thiing beacuse we are not the only race out here kiilliing people and makiing gangsta rap so the color of theiir skiin and the musiic we liisten to doesnt mean anythiing iif they are goiing to do some dumb shiit liike thiis iits a good chance that they were iinfluenced by somethiing other than the musiic they liisten to and to say they shouldnt have been born iin the fiirst place iis out of pocket because fiirst of all they diidnt ask to be brought iin thiis world,but siince they were they are only beiing forced to liive iin iit!!!

educated black woman wrote:

It amazes me the amount of ignorance that comes out of peoples mouths. I feel so sorry that you have decided to make such a horrible situation racial. Even if the shooters were african-american all of the comments were so uncalled for. You need to check the stats on the amount of white people on welfare and have "baby's daddy's" before you began your rant. I hope you dont have any children so that this sheer ignorance can end with you. Please try to do better with yourself

Look no further for evidence of extreme ignorance and racism than what comes out of your mouth! This barbaric violent behavior is all too common from African Americans no matter how much you want to hide it under the table and pull out the "r" card! The percentage of single mothers raising children by missing in action "my baby's daddy" fathers is MUCH higher in the African American community, over 50 per cent in some areas. It's the same with the percentage of people on welfare. Much higher than any other race! Believe me I've raised my children lots better than you or your "homies" could! The statistics and the evidence speaks for itself. It you want to be delusional and bury your head in your sand that's your choice! You have lots of company!

iidk wrote:

ok where the f**k diid thiis baby mama and baby daddy shiit come from? iin my opiiniion that has nothiing to do wiith the siituatiion and just because they were afriican ameriican dont mean a thiing beacuse we are not the only race out here kiilliing people and makiing gangsta rap so the color of theiir skiin and the musiic we liisten to doesnt mean anythiing iif they are goiing to do some dumb shiit liike thiis iits a good chance that they were iinfluenced by somethiing other than the musiic they liisten to and to say they shouldnt have been born iin the fiirst place iis out of pocket because fiirst of all they diidnt ask to be brought iin thiis world,but siince they were they are only beiing forced to liive iin iit!!!

It's true you're not the only race that's killing people out there but per capita based on population you are the vast majority. 80 or 90 per cent of the murders in Richmond and Oakland this year have been perpetrated by African Americans who are under 20 per cent of the population of those two areas! What more evidence do you need? In some urban areas over 50 per cent of the children are raised by single mothers and missing in action "my baby's daddy" (whoever that was!) fathers. I'm certainly not condemning a whole race. The majority are good, law abiding citizens but there is a sizable minority that wouldn't know civility and responsibility if it bit them on their big fat welfare raised ass!

I didn't say gangsta rap was the only negative influence but most experts think it's a substantial one. You have lyrics which glorify punks and thugs (what most gangsta rappers are by the way!) and gangs and condone every uncivil and criminal act up to and including murder. Isn't that a great message for impressionable youth! You have punks as young as 12 and 13 carrying guns and ready to use them at the slightest provocation, just trying to emulate their gangsta rap, bullet scarred idols! Yeah it's a great culture isn't it?

Well of course these "bastards" didn't ask to be brought into the world! None of us asked to be! That still leaves their parents totally irresponsible for bringing them into the world. The kids also have some responsibilities to act like civilized human beings rather than savages just out of the jungle. Yeah I know...that's too much to ask for some people! Opening fire in a crowded shopping mall is just fine! All somebody else's fault! Let's just blame it on racism and not worry about who the next innocent victim will be.

educated black woman wrote:

Did you even graduate from high school?

Yeah I graduated from college in fact! Didn't you notice that every other phrase in my post wasn't "motherf---er"? Unlike some racist heads in their sand fools like you I have statistics and facts and logic and common sense on my side! Like most people of your race (over 50 per cent in some urban areas!) you apparently dropped out before you could learn to write or to think! Next question?

FYI I have a Masters in Genetics.

In a previous post you stated that you are not condeming a whole race. So what do you think you are doing

educated black woman wrote:

FYI I have a Masters in Genetics.

It sounds more like you have a Masters in Jive Bullshit! I truly doubt that you have a Masters in ANYTHING but if so you are just more proof that people can have higher degrees and still be totally lacking in common sense and rational thinking!

educated black woman wrote:

In a previous post you stated that you are not condeming a whole race. So what do you think you are doing

With your Masters in Genetics (uh huh!) why can't you understand what I plainly said in a couple of simple sentences above: "I'm certainly not condemning a whole race. The majority are good, law abiding citizens but there is a sizable minority that wouldn't know civility and responsibility if it bit them on their big fat welfare raised ass!"

I am condemning those who are committing all the violent crime out there, those that are turning our neighborhoods into cesspools and making residents prisoners in their own home. I am condemning worthless thugs like those punks in this Hayward case who pulled out their guns and opened fire in a crowded shopping mall, endangering every innocent person (including many children!) in sight. I am condemning the cultural rot called "gangsta rot" which glorifies these punks, thugs and gangs and condones every uncivil and criminal act up to and including murder. Yeah I am also condemning the irresponsible mothers who have children they can't responsibly raise and the "my baby's daddy" slacker fathers who abandon those mothers and children.

What part of all that don't you understand and where does that or anything else in my posts say that I'm condemning an entire race? Look I truly couldn't care less what color or what race my neighbors or fellow citizens are. I do however expect them to behave with civility, within the law and have respect for other people including myself. I don't think that's too much to ask. If that's the case I have total respect for them. Irresponsible and barbaric behavior however deserves all of our condemnation regardless of racial status.

I am amazed that as I have worked with troubled youth in and out of gangs for over a decade, the attitudes and hostility that is being portrayed on this board are duplicates of the same emotions that cause gangs to be viable in the first place.

Thank you all for making this anthropological outing a fruitful one, now if I just knew more about you.

RefugeGuy wrote:

I am amazed that as I have worked with troubled youth in and out of gangs for over a decade, the attitudes and hostility that is being portrayed on this board are duplicates of the same emotions that cause gangs to be viable in the first place.
Thank you all for making this anthropological outing a fruitful one, now if I just knew more about you.

Oh yeah expecting people to behave with civility and act within the law, to be outraged at the barbaric behavior of thugs and gangs that have turned our neighborhoods into war zones and our houses into prisons, to be disgusted with the irresponsibility of certain people in regard to their having and raising children (more often than not with great taxpayer assistance!), to want to take for granted that we won't be caught in the crossfire of gang warfare at a crowded shopping mall...all of these things are "duplicates of the same emotions that cause gangs to be viable in the first place." I've heard a lot of psycho-babble (also known as bullshit!) in my time but pretty much takes the cake! You may not know much about us but this sure says a lot about you! Hope you enjoyed your "anthropological outing"! LOL

This has to end. But let’s not make this a racial thing. There are in fact a lot black folks had suffered as non blacks. I’ve know many black mothers lost their kids from Mexican gangs and you don’t see or hear them making it racial thing. I do agree that there is high percentage of these crimes are committed by black men, but I can’t really sit here and make or past judgment on why they do these things. I am sure there are combinations of many things. Pointing fingers doesn’t solve anything; just provoke other blacks to commit more violence. I do think that citizen should be allowed to carry guns particularly now that these criminals are so out of control. If we all have guns, then these bastards would think twice on causing or starting any shit or trouble. Just my opinion. TY.

Enough_IS_Enough wrote:

This has to end. But let’s not make this a racial thing. There are in fact a lot black folks had suffered as non blacks. I’ve know many black mothers lost their kids from Mexican gangs and you don’t see or hear them making it racial thing. I do agree that there is high percentage of these crimes are committed by black men, but I can’t really sit here and make or past judgment on why they do these things. I am sure there are combinations of many things. Pointing fingers doesn’t solve anything; just provoke other blacks to commit more violence. I do think that citizen should be allowed to carry guns particularly now that these criminals are so out of control. If we all have guns, then these bastards would think twice on causing or starting any shit or trouble. Just my opinion. TY.

I don't think anybody is making it a racial thing except to point out correctly that the African American community has more than it's share of violent criminals. That's just a fact although some people would like to hide that under a rug and just pull out the old "r" card, blame it on everybody but themselves! Some people have already mentioned that it's not the majority of blacks who are causing the problems, just a sizable minority. I can't make or pass judgement on why they do these things but I sure as hell can condemn them for doing them. Pointing fingers provokes other blacks to commit more violence? That doesn't make any sense at all!

I really don't want to live in a society where we all have to carry guns! The problem is that there are far too many guns out there already and this latest gun battle at the shopping center is just more proof of that. Things that used to be settled with words or a fist fight are now settled with people (including innocents and kids!) being hauled away to the morgue! I really don't care to live in the Old West, thank you! Stricter penalties for anyone caught with a gun in public would be where I would start. These gun toting punks would do 20 years if I had my way!