Living Green Expo cancelled for 2010

What a shame! This was a most educational and inspirational event each year.

A sell-out of 250 vendors along with 25,000 or more visitors speaks volumes for how many people value our coming Green Era.

Hopefully some very smart investor will pick up this event and make a huge success and lots of money from it.

Thank goodness, that's just one less location the global warming fear mongers can try to spread the message that the world is ending if we don't put billions towards their cause. Perhaps they should start by proving that global warming is real and not just a natural process the earth goes through every thousand years or so ! They wont however as it cannot be proven at this time and there is too much money to be made off fear mongering ! I'm just sick of this green movement !

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some smart investor will cash in on joe taxpayer no doubt. whay do you think they call it leaving green?

Canceling this will save precious natural resources. I'm all for it. Now if we could shut down PETA, ACORN, Greenpeace and the Sierra Club, just imagine how much better our environment would be.

MN guy wrote:

Perhaps they should start by proving that global warming is real and not just a natural process the earth goes through every thousand years or so ! They wont however as it cannot be proven at this time and there is too much money to be made off fear mongering ! I'm just sick of this green movement !

Why to you drag out this tired old argument? It has been proven time and time again over the past 30 years. And since when is a Republi-thug against making money? Oh, yeah...when it is someone other than the Republi-thug that is making it.

This is just more of the same type of people whining and crying because the rest of the world is leaving them behind. Green jobs, green technology, and sustainable living styles are the way of the world now. Get with the movement or just keep crying in your beer.

IrishMN wrote:

What a shame! This was a most educational and inspirational event each year.
A sell-out of 250 vendors along with 25,000 or more visitors speaks volumes for how many people value our coming Green Era.
Hopefully some very smart investor will pick up this event and make a huge success and lots of money from it.

Green in both the long and short run are more expensive and less feasible, and cause more future pollution. All this green crap is thought up too fast without any proper planning or testing.

environmentalism is a most hateful ideology. enviros are fascists in disguise.

If I am doing my math correctly, they still have a budget of about $75 million. What are they doing with the rest of the money?

Hey, Irish, didn't I see you there last year selling green beer? Doing your thing for the green movement, huh?

IrishMN wrote:

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Why to you drag out this tired old argument? It has been proven time and time again over the past 30 years. And since when is a Republi-thug against making money? Oh, yeah...when it is someone other than the Republi-thug that is making it.
This is just more of the same type of people whining and crying because the rest of the world is leaving them behind. Green jobs, green technology, and sustainable living styles are the way of the world now. Get with the movement or just keep crying in your beer.

Wrong...30 years ago the scare was that a global ice age was predicted to arrive soon. I bet the 25,000 Living Green Expo attendees last year all traveled to the event in their pollution spewing internal combustion automobiles.

Irish, why don't you just crawl back into your whiskey bottle?

IrishMN wrote:

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Why to you drag out this tired old argument? It has been proven time and time again over the past 30 years. And since when is a Republi-thug against making money? Oh, yeah...when it is someone other than the Republi-thug that is making it.
This is just more of the same type of people whining and crying because the rest of the world is leaving them behind. Green jobs, green technology, and sustainable living styles are the way of the world now. Get with the movement or just keep crying in your beer.

Your filled with green crap. This is just a new way of over charging for products.

Boston firm shifts 'green jobs' to China

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blo...


President Obama and the Democratic majority in Congress are spending billions of tax dollars to subsidize development of "green jobs" - positions for people and companies designing and manufacturing alternative energy sources such as biomass, wind and solar.

One of Obama's buddies, Gov. Deval Patrick of Massachusetts, is also a vocal advocate of such subsidies. Last year, Patrick put Massachusetts taxpayers' money where is mouth is by backing a $58 million package of incentives and subsidies to Evergreen Solar, which manufacturers collector panels used in solar energy units.

Now barely a year later, Evergreen has announced that it is moving its final assembly phase to a factory in China, according to the Boston Globe. The firm's Devens, Massachusetts, plant currently employs 577 full-time and 230 contract workers in designing and manufacturing the silicon wafers and cells that are then assembled into panels.

A company spokesman declined to say how many jobs will be shifted to the new assembly plant in China, according to the Globe.

"In exchange for receiving $58.6 million in grants, loans, land, tax incentives, and other aid to build in Massachusetts, Evergreen pledged that it would add 350 new jobs, a goal that it has, to date, far surpassed. However, the company disclosed in a financial filing yesterday that it would write off $40 million worth of equipment at Devens because of the production shift to China," the Globe reported.

"The company has been a poster child of the Patrick administration’s efforts to develop a 'green energy' industry cluster in Massachusetts. But it has been struggling financially because of increased competition from overseas producers and rapidly falling prices for solar products. It recently persuaded the state to lend it another $5 million to cover equipment purchases, though the state has not yet released the funds," the Globe said.

Evergreen has lost at least $167 million so far in 2009, according to the Globe. Last year during the same period, the company's losses totalled only $33.6 million. Following announcement of the move to China, the company's stock closed at $1.42 per share, down six cents per share.

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What the story does not say about Evergreen Solar is that as soon as the company opened its new facility on Devens, the residents of the town of Harvard—just across a narrow pond from the facility—began complaining about the noise the new facility was producing. Evergreen solar has spent millions trying to mitigate the noise even though most of the noise is caused by destruction of old buildings just beyond Evergreen Solar and by the rail line which has existed there since two centuries ago ...and the ambient noises of nature. The residents of Harvard seem intent upon having Evergreen Solar’s permit to operate pulled. Chalk another one up for the largest group of environMENTAL cases in the country.

"Green jobs"- Industries propped up by goverment because they make no economic sense. It’s ultimately funding of poorly performing energy sources so politicians can do the bidding of environmentalists.

Jiverino wrote:

environmentalism is a most hateful ideology. enviros are fascists in disguise.

When fascism came, it came wrapped in environmentalism and carrying carbon credits.

It's typical of T-Paw's government to nip a successful, well attended event that tries to meet challenges facing our state with intelligent solutions. The article doesn't say what the MPCA's financial contribution was for the event, but I'm sure that the direct and indirect value for private vendors and public education was many times that investment. It's very shortsighted of state government to cut this event. Hopefully, the City of St. Paul, private investors, etc. will pick up the financial shortfall and keep this worthy event going. To the ignorant "Flat Earthers" commenting here that enjoy panning the Green Era using disinformation, you show your fear of anything that questions your Ozzie & Harriet life. The era of inefficient and wasteful energy use, wanton pollution, and ridiculous material consumption is not sustainable. Your lifestyle must change whether there's a green movement or not. The Green movement is a reasonable attempt to respond to the irrefutable climatic changes to the Earth and its people in a measured way that will lead to a better life after the transition.

Ignorance reigns wrote:

To the ignorant "Flat Earthers" commenting here that enjoy panning the Green Era using disinformation, you show your fear of anything that questions your Ozzie & Harriet life. The era of inefficient and wasteful energy use, wanton pollution, and ridiculous material consumption is not sustainable. Your lifestyle must change whether there's a green movement or not. The Green movement is a reasonable attempt to respond to the irrefutable climatic changes to the Earth and its people in a measured way that will lead to a better life after the transition.

Like the man/woman says, get used to it folks.

Life as you know it is going to change. We will become a more fair, and more sustainable society. If it means taxing the pants off of the rich fat cats and the upper middle class, so be it. We will be leaving a cleaner world for our children and grandchildren. No price is too high to pay to accomplish that.

IrishMN wrote:

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Like the man/woman says, get used to it folks.
Life as you know it is going to change. We will become a more fair, and more sustainable society. If it means taxing the pants off of the rich fat cats and the upper middle class, so be it. We will be leaving a cleaner world for our children and grandchildren. No price is too high to pay to accomplish that.

You must not have acomplished anything much in life because of your eagerness to have the government tax away other peoples rewards for being successful. Envy will be your downfall!

IrishMN wrote:

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Like the man/woman says, get used to it folks.
Life as you know it is going to change. We will become a more fair, and more sustainable society. If it means taxing the pants off of the rich fat cats and the upper middle class, so be it. We will be leaving a cleaner world for our children and grandchildren. No price is too high to pay to accomplish that.

Put down the bong, look what it's doing to your brain.