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Apple Valley, MN

Mar 18, 2008

A killing, and disbelief

“It just seemed like they had no respect for anybody”

Rosemount High School senior Louis Oberg, 18, back to camera, hugs sophomore Kara Denuzio, 16, on Friday at the place where senior Cody Casey collapsed on a sidewalk after being stabbed Thursday. via The Minneapolis-St. Paul Pioneer Press

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Mar 15, 2008
 
WONDERING IF THIS IS ANOTHER ILLEGAL ALIEN TRAGEDY,IF SO HOW MANY MORE IS IT GOING TO TAKE BEFORE SOME PEOPLE WAKE UP..MY SYMPATHY TO HIS FAMILY AND MANY FRIENDS.
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Mar 15, 2008
 
Ban knives? And that will do what? The knife didnt kill the boy. Sorry BearMan, the scary thing is that you are able to miss the core issue by that much. How many more like you are there out there?
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Mar 15, 2008
 
Reality Check wrote:
Ban knives? And that will do what? The knife didnt kill the boy. Sorry BearMan, the scary thing is that you are able to miss the core issue by that much. How many more like you are there out there?
Do you understand the concept of sarcasm or irony?
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#9
Mar 15, 2008
 
Why was Casey at that house. The article stated he didn't like to be around those people.

and ban the knife guy: not very funny sarcasm. seriously, get a sense of humor!!
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Mar 15, 2008
 
George Jones: IRONY??
Tired of it all
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Mar 15, 2008
 
George Jones wrote:
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Do you understand the concept of sarcasm or irony?
You many need to spell it out for the deep thinker in MPLS. I will try and help. Substitute GUN for every place the writer used KNIFE. Now this I believe is called irony.

So to help further if this had been a gun used people would be calling for yet more gun control. I am only trying to help folks like you understand these confusing issues.
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#12
Mar 15, 2008
 
It is true, people have changed. there have been weapons around for years and years. Every child used to carry a gun or a knife to hunt or protect thier family. It is not the weapons that kill and trying to take them away will not solve anything, the bad guys will find a way to illegally have them. The problem here is that children these days are not taught how to solve problems. There is no one to blame its just facts. people these days dont have the down to earth morals that they used to, and do not understand how precious a life is, and that there is no excuse no matter how pissed off you are you cant kill someone.
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Mar 15, 2008
 
I'm sure the stabbing was purely accidental. Maybe they were rehearsing for a play.

irony1 [&#712;ai&#601;r&# 601;ni] noun — plural &#712;ironies
a form of deliberate mockery in which one says the opposite of what is obviously true
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Mar 15, 2008
 
BearManNorth wrote:
Thia is what happenes when society allows knives to be purchased, and distributed from wal-marts to hardware stores, with no restrictions or background checks.
There is know reason we can`t controll this problem. Had tighter restrictions been in place this death would have never happened. NO one needs more than one knife, be it for cooking or pleasure with a blade longer than one inch. All knives should be kept in a locked and secure place at all times, and away from children.
Had only the knife that was used in this killing been locked in it`s proper place, and with only a one inch blade...this would have prevented this loss of life. It is time people to call for absolute controll of these dagerous and killing weapons for good. It`s time to stop all stores from selling [right out in the open mind you] knives to the public. Only police should be allowed to carry and use a knife. If a law had been in place that said only one knife per household, and that was sold to an adult that went through a background check first, and the knife only sold at a store with a proper lic., and EVERY knife registered, this death would have never happened.
Yes, it`s true....more random acts of violence happen with knives than any other weapon. Time to controll this needless item RIGHT NOW!
A "turn in knives program" will save a future child, and it`s time Minnesota implimented such a program right now, and set a course towards new laws and restrictions aimed at knife violence. After all, it`s clear as a bell this would not have happened, had Minnesota held up to it`s high standard of controll on these deadly products called knives.
Save our children....BAN KNIVES!
And soon we'll have to eat dinner with our hands because silverware will be outlawed. I hope you're being funny with this post, but I'm afraid you're not. People will always find a way to be rotten and violent and it's going to get worse unless we start cutting off hands for punishment. Like they do in the old country. If you want to deterr crime, stop giving pond scum like these perps lectures and coloring books.
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Mar 15, 2008
 
BearManNorth wrote:
Thia is what happenes when society allows knives to be purchased, and distributed from wal-marts to hardware stores, with no restrictions or background checks.
There is know reason we can`t controll this problem. Had tighter restrictions been in place this death would have never happened. NO one needs more than one knife, be it for cooking or pleasure with a blade longer than one inch. All knives should be kept in a locked and secure place at all times, and away from children.
Had only the knife that was used in this killing been locked in it`s proper place, and with only a one inch blade...this would have prevented this loss of life. It is time people to call for absolute controll of these dagerous and killing weapons for good. It`s time to stop all stores from selling [right out in the open mind you] knives to the public. Only police should be allowed to carry and use a knife. If a law had been in place that said only one knife per household, and that was sold to an adult that went through a background check first, and the knife only sold at a store with a proper lic., and EVERY knife registered, this death would have never happened.
Yes, it`s true....more random acts of violence happen with knives than any other weapon. Time to controll this needless item RIGHT NOW!
A "turn in knives program" will save a future child, and it`s time Minnesota implimented such a program right now, and set a course towards new laws and restrictions aimed at knife violence. After all, it`s clear as a bell this would not have happened, had Minnesota held up to it`s high standard of controll on these deadly products called knives.
Save our children....BAN KNIVES!
Ok,ok...your're a good writer! I thought that had to be a joke, but then, honestly, on these posts you never know. I must be getting too jaded with all this commentary.
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#17
Mar 15, 2008
 
A kid gets killed and the forum is used for irony and sarcasm. Bunch of idiots.
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Mar 15, 2008
 
angry american wrote:
WONDERING IF THIS IS ANOTHER ILLEGAL ALIEN TRAGEDY,IF SO HOW MANY MORE IS IT GOING TO TAKE BEFORE SOME PEOPLE WAKE UP..MY SYMPATHY TO HIS FAMILY AND MANY FRIENDS.
what if the roles were reversed (assuming the assailant is, in fact, an "alien")? what if a latino kid went to some white kid's house to start a fight over a girl? what if that white kid then stabbed the latino? i'm sure you would be screaming self-defense.

what was this cody kid doing, going over to someone's house because he "didn't like his girlfriend hanging around with another guy." certainly, he didn't deserve to get stabbed. however, everyone is making it sound like he was a totally innocent bystander. there is some culpability on the part of the victim. let's let the facts come out before we draw any conclusions.

and to those who somehow are twisting this story into an argument for gun rights: shame. seriously. i support gun rights, but your "ban knife" parody showed absolutely no class.
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Mar 15, 2008
 
"Neighbors said the Dallara Avenue house where the suspect and his brother lived has been a source of complaints.

Ron Kobel, a neighbor, said problems started after the suspect and his two brothers moved in."

Let me guess- rental housing?

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Mar 15, 2008
 
mplsguy wrote:
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what if the roles were reversed (assuming the assailant is, in fact, an "alien")? what if a latino kid went to some white kid's house to start a fight over a girl? what if that white kid then stabbed the latino? i'm sure you would be screaming self-defense.
what was this cody kid doing, going over to someone's house because he "didn't like his girlfriend hanging around with another guy." certainly, he didn't deserve to get stabbed. however, everyone is making it sound like he was a totally innocent bystander. there is some culpability on the part of the victim. let's let the facts come out before we draw any conclusions.
and to those who somehow are twisting this story into an argument for gun rights: shame. seriously. i support gun rights, but your "ban knife" parody showed absolutely no class.
YOU SIR ARE A FOOL
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Mar 15, 2008
 
Craig - Mpls wrote:
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Where do you expect people to live if they don't own property?? Not all people who rent are a "source of complaints".
GOOD PLACE WOULD BE MEXICO
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#25
Mar 15, 2008
 
I notice one of the guilty has a last name of MAartinez. WHen you deal with MExicans you have to be prepared for fatal violence. THey don't get into fist fights like normal people. Because most are small and puny wimps, they use knives and guns. THat is why do many Hispanic gangs exist. You don't see lots of gang activity in poor parts of iddle Iowa. But, you put a bunch of Mexicans together and you have gangs.

We need to crack down on these illegal immigrants and keep these Mexicans out of America. Mexico is the most corrupt country on earth. Mexicans bring with them a culture of violence and corruption.

I was so not suprised to see a Mexican name associated with murder.
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#26
Mar 15, 2008
 
Craig;I'm a landlord and after the first valid complaint they would be evicted! Ilike your photo.
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#27
Mar 15, 2008
 
A friend of mine is dating a MExican girl here on a VISA. He says she hates all her relativers in AMerica because they do everything they can to steal from America. THey tell their kids to hate AMerica and love MExico. THis is true. Dumb liberals need to spend time with this lady to get the truth behind Illegals and expose them for the scumbags that they are.
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Mar 15, 2008
 
Craig - Mpls wrote:
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Not all people who rent are a "source of complaints".
Not all, but an over-represented portion thereof. Rental property is the source of most of our crime problem here in Crooklyn Park.
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Mar 15, 2008
 
new guy wrote:
So many people consider themselves well read, intelligent, etc. but few seem to be able to grasp the basic concepts of sarcasm, irony (yes, irony, curious) and the ability to debate in a public forum.
BearMan, those people will never get it.
Too bad.
Sad.
Exactly! And the reason for it is that seven out of ten people are stupid. The scariest part of that stat is quite a few of them vote.
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