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Guns caused the Fort Hood mass-murder, says Chicago's Mayor

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Judge Roy Bean

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....ok...then lets all be safer have his bodyguards turn in their guns, and the thug police cannot carry if not on duty!
IL. Land of Corruption........
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A gun is an object. An object cannot function by its self. Therefore the cause of the deaths and wounded at Ft Hood was a person. If it would have been anything else. Would the Mayor have even said anything? It was aircraft that caused the deaths on 9/11. Has the mayor stopped flying? Has he voiced that aircraft should be banned because they kill people?
Mr Mayor,
I will not come to your city. Until the laws are changed for conceal and carry.

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Tory II wrote:
Over 60% of all Americans now believe 9/11 was a govt conspiracy.
Well, that's just crap. I suppose you also believe the world is going to end in 2012. Conspiracy nuts.

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Ron-Texas wrote:
<quoted text>Sorry to disagree, but We have a Concealed-Right-to-carry-Permi t here in Texas(no We don't go down the street with 2 six guns strapped on our waist). But since the Law was passed almost 20 years ago, there have been 'few' incidents that have happened by anyone with a Permit. A thourough background search is conducted, and each(male/female) is fingerprinted, and these prints/information is entered into the FBI data base. It's the burgulars/drug users/dealers that steal/use the stolen guns to commit the crimes(Murders/robberies/rapes , etc.). The radical Jihadist at Ft. Hood went ballistic(crazy) and wanted to protect his fellow Islams in the Middle East. He bought the gun/clips/ammo legally. Chicago has an entirely different problem and the Mayor doesn't have any common sense!!
Right on all points, Ron. Check the records in AZ. They have concealed-carry laws as well. Crime is far lower than it is in states without those same laws.

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Tory II wrote:
Do you trust govt ? Do you trust Daley, Bush or Obama ? The 2nd amendment prohibits GOVT from regulating guns (period).

[QUOTE who="Ron-Texas"]< quoted text>Sorry, but the 2nd Admendment does not prohibit anything. As it was originally written into Law, it stated We have the right to bear arms, to prevent the Government from taking over the Country. And We may eventually loose that right, same as we are gradually loosing Freedom of Speech, and Freedom of the Press, as well as Freedom of Religion!!! But hold on to your guns and buy more ammo!
The amendment prohibits govt from regulating arms.

"...the right of the people to keep and bear arms SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED."

The amendment is speaking to the govt.
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A weak attempt at covering up the the true fact that this was a Muslim terrorist attack and also an excuse to blame gun laws in America. Getting rid of one Muslim, then allowing five more to cross our borders is Obama's great hope and change.
Obama is behind the Muslim terrorists attacks. His veiled attempts to cover up this latest travesty shows his cowardice and outright hatred for America. The USA government is behind the attacks on our country, from the Murrah debacle to the 911 horror and now allowing random Muslim terrorism in this country to rub our noses in it.
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...why don't they just have the CIA shoot that trouble maker in in YEman.....

Law West of the Peco's.........
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Roseann Roseanna Danna wrote:
A weak attempt at covering up the the true fact that this was a Muslim terrorist attack and also an excuse to blame gun laws in America. Getting rid of one Muslim, then allowing five more to cross our borders is Obama's great hope and change.
Obama is behind the Muslim terrorists attacks. His veiled attempts to cover up this latest travesty shows his cowardice and outright hatred for America. The USA government is behind the attacks on our country, from the Murrah debacle to the 911 horror and now allowing random Muslim terrorism in this country to rub our noses in it.
And there's UFO's at Area 51.... Bigfoot is real... Elvis is still alive. Umm try reading something other than the National Enquirer.

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Michael Colvin wrote:
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And there's UFO's at Area 51.... Bigfoot is real... Elvis is still alive. Umm try reading something other than the National Enquirer.
The above is from the pro-govt suckups that promote rediculous conspiracy theories 'so that' we don't get too focused on the real conspiracy.

Bush said they attacked us for our freedom and values (rock n roll music and short skirted females)'so that' we don't ever get focused on the fact that they attacked us because the CIA and the U.S. military incited and antagonized them in the Middle East (to get them to attack the WTC and kill enough Americans to justify war, probably for profit and legacy).

The U.S. govt promoted trade sanctions against Iraq that prevented Iraqi kids from getting medicine (killing thousands of them). Our govt stationed troops on Islamic holy land IN THEIR COUNTRY. U.S. female military pilots went into Arab towns without wearing scarfs.
Loud incessant U.S. fighter airplanes repeatedly harassed Arabs 24/7 (in Iraq, Jordan, and Syria).

The UFO's in area 51 conspiracy was created by the CIA 'so that' no person would believe ANY conspiracy theory (especially the real conspiracy started by our govt via the CIA). If they did, people like Michael Colvin could easily make them appear to be either nuts or stupid. Only a child, or a dummy, or a nut would believe in Bigfoot (or UFO's). But it takes a highly intelligent person to understand who's causing all the trouble (our govt).

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Judge Roy Bean wrote:
...why don't they just have the CIA shoot that trouble maker in in YEman.....
Law West of the Peco's.........
Are you saying that because our military can't do it ?

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[QUOTE who-"Tory II"] Over 60% of all Americans now believe 9/11 was a govt conspiracy.[/QUOTE]
Andie J wrote:
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Well, that's just crap. I suppose you also believe the world is going to end in 2012. Conspiracy nuts.
The poll was done here on Topix. It involved over 32,000 people.

Believing the world is going to end in 2012 is just crap. You're nuts.

Would you believe Bush got over a million people killed (now) by invading Iraq ? All nineteen 9/11 hijackers were from Saudi Arabia, none were from Iraq. Osama Bin Laden is also from Saudi Arabia.
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Ron-Texas wrote:
<quoted text>Sorry to disagree, but We have a Concealed-Right-to-carry-Permi t here in Texas(no We don't go down the street with 2 six guns strapped on our waist). But since the Law was passed almost 20 years ago, there have been 'few' incidents that have happened by anyone with a Permit. A thourough background search is conducted, and each(male/female) is fingerprinted, and these prints/information is entered into the FBI data base. It's the burgulars/drug users/dealers that steal/use the stolen guns to commit the crimes(Murders/robberies/rapes , etc.). The radical Jihadist at Ft. Hood went ballistic(crazy) and wanted to protect his fellow Islams in the Middle East. He bought the gun/clips/ammo legally. Chicago has an entirely different problem and the Mayor doesn't have any common sense!!
You are wasting your time trying to explain our ways to a 14 year old girl from Germany. They are brain washed over there. Just ignore her.
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Nov 14, 2009
 
The problem with Daley is that even if nobody votes for him he would still win the elections; he'd make sure.
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It seems to me at this point that the incident which occurred at Fort Hood was a terrorist act. One of those suicide missions; only time will tell. The mayor's comments are totally out of context and nonsense. I work in some of Chicago's most dangerous neighborhoods and shootings occur ALL THE TIME and don't even make the paper. How are Chicago's gun laws helping? They aren't. Law abiding citizens are sitting in their homes and are scarred about becoming a victim. They are not allowed to have guns. Many don't care and choose to be armed anyway; God bless them.
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You are wasting your time trying to explain our ways to a 14 year old girl from Germany. They are brain washed over there. Just ignore her.
Still suffering that paranoia, wow.
Ron-Texas

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Right on all points, Ron. Check the records in AZ. They have concealed-carry laws as well. Crime is far lower than it is in states without those same laws.
Thanks. I could be wrong(and I know somebody will correct me) but in the State of Arizona, people can carry guns openly legally. There were several people that showed up at some(O'Bama Rally) several months ago one with an M16, and several others with 9MM in holsters on their belts. People around here(Farmers/Ranchers) had them on their gun racks on the back glass of their Pick-ups. But thieves started stealing them, and the Law started stopping them and requesting(only, no tickets) the driver to remove them from openly displaying them.
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Citizen wrote:
It seems to me at this point that the incident which occurred at Fort Hood was a terrorist act. One of those suicide missions; only time will tell. The mayor's comments are totally out of context and nonsense. I work in some of Chicago's most dangerous neighborhoods and shootings occur ALL THE TIME and don't even make the paper. How are Chicago's gun laws helping? They aren't. Law abiding citizens are sitting in their homes and are scarred about becoming a victim. They are not allowed to have guns. Many don't care and choose to be armed anyway; God bless them.
I agree on the 'Act of Terrorism'. And remember that the President also passed a Federal Law a few weeks ago on 'Hate-Crimes'. So I believe the Military should 'add' charges against Hasan(presently 13 counts of premetitated murder, plus, 30 counts of Premitated attempted murder, plus Terriorism, plus 43 counts of a 'Hate Crime'). And I'm terribly sorry for all of the young deaths(especially the young people and children) in Chicago.
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Citizen wrote:
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You are wasting your time trying to explain our ways to a 14 year old girl from Germany. They are brain washed over there. Just ignore her.
I appreciate your comment, but being as old as I am, and going through life and have seen/experienced what I have, I don't consider it wasting my time to give 'any' young person any where some of my wisdom/knowledge thoughts for them to consider/think about. Remember We never know what We say that will stick in a young person's mind for the rest of their lives. Thanks again.
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If law abiding citizens were allowed to carry openly or concealed. How may drugs houses would be in their neighborhood? How many gang members would assault those law abiding citizens? How many criminals would roam the street?
If 10,000 of the people in Chicago openly carried firearms what would the mayor do?
The mayor and all politicans hide behind metal detectors, bodyguards, and pass laws to protect themselves. While leaving the common citizen to the wolves. After all didn't the Supreme Court of the United States of America. State something like that police officers are not responsible for the citizens.
As the next election approachs. I would encourge you to vote out those who are currently in office. That is the true "CHANGE" we need in America!
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Tory II wrote:
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The poll was done here on Topix. It involved over 32,000 people.
Believing the world is going to end in 2012 is just crap. You're nuts.
Would you believe Bush got over a million people killed (now) by invading Iraq ? All nineteen 9/11 hijackers were from Saudi Arabia, none were from Iraq. Osama Bin Laden is also from Saudi Arabia.
But remember that Bush was acting on the 'best' information he had at the time, which turned out to be wrong. But Sadam Hussien definately needed to be caught/tried/convicted/killed.
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