Delta adds $110 fuel charge for LAX-HNL

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DCguy wrote:

Well you can see where this is going. With a flight from LAX-HNL roughly the same distance as a transcon flight, expect to see fuel surcharges on these flights as well pretty soon. And this is what the merger hath wrought?

Prost wrote:

.......... Keep buying imported goods too. China's industry is booming, the air is being more poluted, and they are consuming record amounts of oil. Driving up world wide demand. Next time you buy a cheap item made in China or Mexico or anywhere else overseas, remember plastic is petroleum based.......

Prost Broke The Code wrote:

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Well said, Prost. I am truly surprised more people don't correlate the demand-supply effect on oil and other resources when they thoughtlessly buy cheap products made in China.

NWARETCAPT wrote:

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I was at a woodcraft show recently. Products by true craftsmen were shown and I gotta tell ya, nothing made in China could come close to the quality, beauty and uniqueness of the furniture I saw. Americans have a choice to buy "made in America". They just won't pay American craftsmen for quality products.
If the American consumer MADE THE DECISION to buy products made in America rather than those made over seas, small companies would spring up all over and jobs would come back to America, where they belong. The first step is don't buy anything made over seas. It will be painful at first, but every first step is. Leave all foreign products on the shelf. If you must buy a foreign made product because no American product is available, buy the cheapest pair of sneakers, not the high end ones.
A movement must begin to boycott foreign products by the American consumer. It was we who gave our dollars to foreign producers to send their stuff here. It is we who can reverse the trend.
There is nothing we can't produce in America that is produced abroad, and we can do it better. I say we begin to take back that part of the market place that we so generously gave away to live cheaper. Was it worth it?

NWARETCAPT wrote:

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I was at a woodcraft show recently. Products by true craftsmen were shown and I gotta tell ya, nothing made in China could come close to the quality, beauty and uniqueness of the furniture I saw. Americans have a choice to buy "made in America". They just won't pay American craftsmen for quality products.
If the American consumer MADE THE DECISION to buy products made in America rather than those made over seas, small companies would spring up all over and jobs would come back to America, where they belong. The first step is don't buy anything made over seas. It will be painful at first, but every first step is. Leave all foreign products on the shelf. If you must buy a foreign made product because no American product is available, buy the cheapest pair of sneakers, not the high end ones.
A movement must begin to boycott foreign products by the American consumer. It was we who gave our dollars to foreign producers to send their stuff here. It is we who can reverse the trend.
There is nothing we can't produce in America that is produced abroad, and we can do it better. I say we begin to take back that part of the market place that we so generously gave away to live cheaper. Was it worth it?

call me Al wrote:

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Totally agree gramps.
The only way American craftsmen will ever attract the American buyer is if they lower their prices just like the airlines did to keep the american public flying. It may not be so much the american public buying cheap but rather the american made item is too expensive.

NWARETCAPT wrote:

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Know what's really ironic? Union workers don't buy American products. They were losing jobs to over seas manufactures in the 70s and 80s, and buying over seas products rather than their own. I remember the "Buy American" bumper stickers. It kinda hurt when it was on the bumber of a Volkswagon.

NWARETCAPT wrote:

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Know what's really ironic? Union workers don't buy American products. They were losing jobs to over seas manufactures in the 70s and 80s, and buying over seas products rather than their own. I remember the "Buy American" bumper stickers. It kinda hurt when it was on the bumber of a Volkswagon.

call me Al wrote:

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Totally agree gramps.
The only way American craftsmen will ever attract the American buyer is if they lower their prices just like the airlines did to keep the american public flying. It may not be so much the american public buying cheap but rather the american made item is too expensive.

NWARETCAPT wrote:

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Al, I have to ask how can the American can be charging too much for his/her product and at the same time union workers and others ask for higher wages? How can you have it both ways? No, what's happened is that the American consumer wants to spend a smaller percentage of their income for something than our parents did. Our parents had to save a long time to get something like a davenport (that's couch to you youngin's). We want to furnish a living room, couple of bedrooms and a family room in the same amount of time. Nothing is done in steps anymore, it all has to happen all at once. Instant gratification, I think it's called. Buy Chinese and it can happen.

Maxx wrote:

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I agree totally! But there is more. Americans, in general, used to take responsibility for their own actions - "sue" used to be a dirty word. It was very rare that one average american would actually sue another. Now it is common place and I truely think that people hope they find themselves in a situation where where they can sue for that "instant cash", this way they don't have to spend time working and saving for it.
They also tend to blame everyone in the area for their own mistakes or shortcomings, they want everyone to treat them like kings and queens while the world is rotating around them but when you want to merge into traffic they will cut you off and flip you the bird.
Sad to say but Americas days of being the world leader are just about over (not because of any president or political party) but because of who Americans have become...spoiled, greedy, self-centered, uneducated (especially in the sciences), spending only on what they want and demanding the government give them that which they need...I can't go on, it's too sad.