From the logbook: 2010 Buick LaCrosse CXS

JJFADS wrote:

haha

To quote our illustrious administrator:...

"If that's typical of your posts to come, please do not post on these threads.
Your proven lack of reading comprehension, your tendency to insult others, and your willingness to distort what is plainly written in the posts are clearly inappropriate."

actually clowns prefer the Tundra becuse its a joke of a truck.

The more I look at this new Buick, the more I like it.

So JJ, do you (or a family member) work for GM, a GM supplier or a GM dealer?

After scanning the forums and the posts your agenda is too obvious.

Haven't seen the new Buick yet, apparently it only exists in the southern states.

La Verdad wrote:

Haven't seen the new Buick yet, apparently it only exists in the southern states.

Not true - saw 2 ( or the same one twice) here in Lehigh County !
PA

Kilgore Trout wrote:

So JJ, do you (or a family member) work for GM, a GM supplier or a GM dealer?
After scanning the forums and the posts your agenda is too obvious.

Explained it in another post-
My love for cars rests on the European side of the pond.
However, if GM continues to build world class offerings like the CTSV and Zr1 they will have a shot a winning me back as a possible purchaser in the future.

I'm glad to see that JJFADS bases his love for GM on "halo" cars that he cannot afford. Then again, the CTS-V just got smoked in the latest comparo, where the 8-speed Euro competitor outshined it. If GM wants to compete in the luxo-performance arena, then it must go beyond a 6-speed auto. The competitors are packing 7 or 8 speed DSGs.

La Verdad wrote:

I'm glad to see that JJFADS bases his love for GM on "halo" cars that he cannot afford. Then again, the CTS-V just got smoked in the latest comparo, where the 8-speed Euro competitor outshined it. If GM wants to compete in the luxo-performance arena, then it must go beyond a 6-speed auto. The competitors are packing 7 or 8 speed DSGs.

Nonsense, your reading comprehension must improve as substantial rebuttal is void in your post. As clearly stated in our much acclaimed post, one shall acknowledge and accept the fact that GM will need to continue building world class vehicles to possibly win us back as a customer. Unfortunately for you, failing to discern the author’s post clearly labels you as a dumbass.

Again, at 13.5K less, the winner dollar for dollar –“money”(for those of you in Rio Linda) is the CTS-V. With that said, I think you would be very much surprised at my latest toy. Therefore I resist your failed attempt to entertain our financial capabilities. At any rate, while you continue to pedal toyota, I will continue to educate you on all things automotive.

La Verdad wrote:

I'm glad to see that JJFADS bases his love for GM on "halo" cars that he cannot afford. Then again, the CTS-V just got smoked in the latest comparo, where the 8-speed Euro competitor outshined it. If GM wants to compete in the luxo-performance arena, then it must go beyond a 6-speed auto. The competitors are packing 7 or 8 speed DSGs.

As I suggested to you you earlier,(that you will be goaded into a pissing match), it's happening as you can no doubt see.
This is very typical whenever someone like you attempts to engage in a reasonable and objective discussion.
My advice to you at this stage is "don't get sucked in"---it will result in a pointless exercise and a complete waste of time.
The wisest approach is to simply make your point and then don't respond when the "goading" comes forth---as it has in this case.

JJFADS was goaded into a verbose response for which none was requested. A poster offered factual information, and JJ opined in response.

Stop It wrote:

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As I suggested to you you earlier,(that you will be goaded into a pissing match), it's happening as you can no doubt see.
This is very typical whenever someone like you attempts to engage in a reasonable and objective discussion.
My advice to you at this stage is "don't get sucked in"---it will result in a pointless exercise and a complete waste of time.
The wisest approach is to simply make your point and then don't respond when the "goading" comes forth---as it has in this case.

Get a clue. We don't call you the hen for nothing and this is a good example.

Back on topic - Lacrosse continues to perform well and beat expectations.

JJFADS wrote:

Back on topic - Lacrosse continues to perform well and beat expectations.

Expectations were set very low mind you. The last stretch goal that GM had was the 29 pin boldly emblazened on Rick's lapel.

The Authority wrote:

<quoted text>Expectations were set very low mind you.

Interesting take, as the pundits now call it an American Lexus.

Imitation is the highest form of flattery. To imitate a Lexus is to concede defeat, which GM did a long time ago.

The Authority wrote:

Imitation is the highest form of flattery. To imitate a Lexus is to concede defeat, which GM did a long time ago.

Incorrect yet again - The “pundits” said that, nobody else. As stated before, Toyota’s hey day has come and gone.

Google "American Lexus" and so far it's the LA Times and that's it.

One article is weak authority for the quote about "the pundits".

Let's see what the major reviewers say after a long term test. Also I'll see what the resale value is after 2, 3 years. American cars have not been able to hold a candle to the Japanese cars in this regard. To me that's the acid test.

BTW - the Saturn Aura (an outstanding auto) was named MT 2007 "car of the year" - where is it now ???

Kilgore Trout wrote:

Google "American Lexus" and so far it's the LA Times and that's it.
One article is weak authority for the quote about "the pundits".
Let's see what the major reviewers say after a long term test. Also I'll see what the resale value is after 2, 3 years. American cars have not been able to hold a candle to the Japanese cars in this regard. To me that's the acid test.
BTW - the Saturn Aura (an outstanding auto) was named MT 2007 "car of the year" - where is it now ???

To me the acid test is the type of blotter, but that’s another story. At any rate can you people please stop referring to the Lacrosse as an American Lexus? It’s a work of art and nobody should degrade this vehicle by placing anything “lexus” in the mix.

I must take your jab on recall as amusing. You aren’t educated in this field as you will concede when more vehicles (in this case toyota turds) are dumped on the American people, the resale goes down. Combine that with the dumping of Toyota’s offerings on the rental lots and the poor quality of recent years, and it spells doom for Toyota resale. If you like the Saturn so much then go out and buy one, geez.

Can we get back on topic now…please?

Prove the resale values - right now all we have is your bluster. Resale value is not a direct function solely of supply. Demand plays a heavy hand, too.

Despite your claims, GM has one car in the Kelley 2009 top resale list - the CTS (which is the best car GM makes / ever made) Their only other "winner" is the Tahoe Hybrid http://www.kbb.com/kbb/ReviewsAndRatings/Best...

Honda, Toyota and Nissan have seven vehicles on the list - including a (gasp) Lexus. Where's the Buicks? Where's the Loserene? The LaCrap? the EnCrap?-oops not there !

Here's Cars.com 's latest list, based upon leasing guides http://www.cars.com/go/advice/Story.jsp...

Note that not Generally Miserable cars make the list whatsoever. It is dominated by the Japanese cars once again.

Why don't you either look facts up before you post or stop your silly agenda of pushing GM.

btw - I own an Aura, absolutely wonderful automobile.

The Buick's resale value will reflect

JJFADS wrote:

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To me the acid test is the type of blotter, but that’s another story. At any rate can you people please stop referring to the Lacrosse as an American Lexus? It’s a work of art and nobody should degrade this vehicle by placing anything “lexus” in the mix.
I must take your jab on recall as amusing. You aren’t educated in this field as you will concede when more vehicles (in this case toyota turds) are dumped on the American people, the resale goes down. Combine that with the dumping of Toyota’s offerings on the rental lots and the poor quality of recent years, and it spells doom for Toyota resale. If you like the Saturn so much then go out and buy one, geez.
Can we get back on topic now…please?