Oct 9, 2007
Person speaks the truth
FYI said in the Autos Forum:
[QUOTE who="Bob Cobb"]Nice looking but dont they understand people want cars like Toyota makes? Good gas mileage, styling, well built, etc... What are they doing?[/QUOTE] Duuhhh Toyota makes boring appliances. Go back to your Good Housekeeping.
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Not worth buying. No gas mileage. Engines too large.
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Nice looking but dont they understand people want cars like Toyota makes? Good gas mileage, styling, well built, etc... What are they doing?
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It's not worth buying because the engine's are too large? You're quite the driving enthusiast arent ya? You do realize that gas costs are only one of many costs associated with driving and owning a car right? What's with your zoning in on only mileage and diesel availability? I'm suprised you post here--usually guys that aren't into cars or driving excitement doing hand on auto forums.
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6 liter v8 362 HP, Real wheel drive, now they're talkin. If only it came in a 2 door.
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Duuhhh Toyota makes boring appliances. Go back to your Good Housekeeping. |
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Look....the V8 gets a 6-speed auto or manual...the mileage should be about 28 mpg....geesh....you have it all with this vehicle...if you want better mileage get the V6 5 speed auto....heck...my 07 Vette with a 6-speed manual and 400 HP gets 26 mpg
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Toyhoota?.....haha
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STOP COPYING B M W
Build your own design Be PROUD to be AMERICAN |
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and Toyhoot doesn't copy Mercedes and BMW?....haha...of course they do....anyway...the G8 will be better that the Bimmer...
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Joined: Dec 12, 2006
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I don't think Honda and Toyota have to worry about GM's Pontiac rear-drive flagship sedan called G-8.
GM doesn't sell a vehicle better than a BMW and if you think so, you better wake up, because you are just dreaming!!! |
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Joined: Dec 12, 2006
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Here is what has been said about Pontiac G6:
What's bad about GM? The cars By Robert Kuttner | The Boston Globe TOYOTA RECENTLY projected that it would surpass General Motors in 2007 as the world's top-selling automaker. GM lost $10.6 billion in 2005 -- about what Toyota earned in profits. Toyota's outstanding shares of stock are now valued at 10 times those of GM What's the matter with GM? Herewith, a first hand testament. On Christmas, my family needed to rent a car. Rentals were scarce, and the car turned out to be a Pontiac G6. With cars like this, it's a miracle that GM has hung in so long. Thanks to slushy steering, the car meanders all over the road. By the time we reached my son's house, only 45 minutes from the rental agency, two passengers were carsick. This wandering might have been peculiar to the vehicle -- unbalanced tires or loose linkage -- or my driving. But as a veteran car renter, I'm all too familiar with GM's quirky steering. Among several other design lapses: a clunky shift-lever whose settings are unlit in the dark, pull-up door locks located in hard-to-reach places, the absence of exterior key locks on doors other than the driver's. This last omission would be less annoying if the master lock on the driver's door unlocked the other doors (as it does on comparable imports). But GM does not include that feature. So, picture me, parking in front of my son's house for Christmas dinner, trying to extricate my 93-year-old mother from the back seat. I gallantly go around to her side of the car to open the door, but it's locked. There is no outside door-lock to release it. I climb back into the driver's seat, and reach across my mother to the far rear of the back seat, to pull up the badly located lock. A truly intimate mother-son Christmas moment. Who makes these bonehead design decisions? You might say I rented a cheap car, and I shouldn't expect fancy features. But the G6 is actually a mid sized, mid priced car, with a base price of $17,825, intended to compete with the Camry. Dream on. Maybe it's unfair to blame a whole company for one crummy model. But the problems with Pontiac's G6 are emblematic. This was the car launched with a stunt hailed as one of the greatest product-placement coups ever. In September 2004, GM paid Oprah Winfrey an estimated $8 million to give all 276 souls in her studio audience a new G6. For several raving minutes, Oprah endorsed the product. You can imagine the high-fives among GM executives. But the product had to deliver on the marketing, and the G6 didn't. How like GM. GM has had three decades to respond to higher gas prices with fuel-efficient cars, and to meet the Japanese challenge with better products. Instead, GM keeps putting marketing and imagery over engineering. GM skimps on the mass-market cars that once made it number one, and bets on high-profit items with limited markets, such as the Cadillac, Hummer, the Corvette -- a strategy guaranteed to turn GM from world's largest auto maker into a niche producer. Increasingly, Japanese cars are being assembled in the USA, and the quality holds up just fine. So what's wrong with GM? The cars. GM is famous for being run by bean counters and ad men. Toyota is run by engineers. For complete story here is the link: http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_op ... I thought that GM was making a better vehicles these days but as you see it is same old story with poor quality product, hoping the public will buy. This is why the public have lost their trust in GM to hold up for the long run and I doult that the G8n is going to be any better. |
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DRIVE A G8...you will believe
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con_tiki....aaah...its the G8...not the G6....relax
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gee...i forgot...you cant get a GTO in Canada...:-)
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con_tiki....you better hurry and put your order in...and while your waiting...drive one of the recent GTO's....it'll give you some idea of what to expect...:-)
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oh i forgot....no GTO in Canada...:-)
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Joined: Dec 12, 2006
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I can assure you that it wouldn't be GM I would be buying because they can't give me the satifaction or reliability that I expect and get from Honda.
Honda, my first choice, my second choice would certainly be Toyota because the domestics let me down too many times when I drove them for over 40 years, before going to Honda. Going to Honda for both our vehicles was the best decision I ever made, in choicing these fine automobiles with great reliability and resale value. Why would I ever want to go back to GM again. I learn from my mistakes and GM was one of them!! |
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v8 and with near 50/50 front to rear weight distribution see www.gminsidenews.com this thing will eat Beemers for breakfast and for half the price,way to go GM!!
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and it wont be boooooooring.....like a honda or toyhoota....haha
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Joined: Dec 12, 2006
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Just remember GTOGRRR [Bloomfield Hills, MI]what you calling booring is selling very well and that is Honda and Toyota.
The domestics are sure NOT doing the same and are feeling the lost sales to Honda and Toyota. Just ask Chrysler,Ford or GM what they think about their loses to Honda and Toyota. I am sure they would love get what Honda and Toyota have taken from them in sales with what you call boring!! |
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