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Black Kids Ousted from Summer Camp Pool. It's 1955 Again! (Video)

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Tim John wrote:
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"..since whites were victimized 2.9 million times by other whites in 2002 (compared to roughly 614,000 times by blacks), this means that whites are 4.7 times more likely to be victimized by another white person than by a black person (14). Thus, if crime data can justify white fear of blacks, it would also require whites to be terrified of white neighbors, co-workers, family and white strangers, for these are the folks most likely to victimize us..."
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Is this the 'behavioral' issue you speak of? Learn to spell, and then learn to live outside of the propaganda world...
I'm talking about kids being loud and disruptive perhaps..maybe bullying others. You think that's possible? I happen to be Black myself you dumbass.
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I Hate Syracuse wrote:
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Excellent question; and the answer is because they are private! Even private clubs pay taxes that support public schools, fire, police, and representation.
Then, form your club off shore. Purchase your own security, fire and social services. Don't sponge off the rest of us. Then after enjoying military protection, local services, roads, bridges and resources suddenly decide that you can exclude the very same folks that made those things possible. It's the height of ego/ethnocentric and juvenile behavior.
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Garrig wrote:
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I'm talking about kids being loud and disruptive perhaps..maybe bullying others. You think that's possible? I happen to be Black myself you dumbass.
Regarding your point about taxes. Taxes go into a pool, and are not divided by race, color or creed. The reason you are taxed is, theoretically, relates back to a contract between yourself and the state. That contract does not say that taxes from white folks (clubs) are to be distinguished from taxes from Blacks. Your position exceeds what falls into the realm of the absurd. Logically, it's off the shelf.
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Tim John wrote:
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Thank you, and well said....sometimes the Clarence Thomas-types are so eager to paint the Black victims as NOT the victims. So are to push across a prima facie -- "God bless the child that has their own.." propaganda...
The Clarence Thomas-look alike failed to realize the simple fact that if these parents PAID their money - then OBVIOUSLY the club appeared to express an OPEN MEMBERSHIP POLICY - therefore the club is legally liable... and should be sued into the next century...
I don't think these parents decided.."Gee, this is a Whites-only club, let me pay to send my child in to swim.."
,...Clowns and idiots are simply, clowns and idiots here for our laughter....
You'd have an interesting point if you provided a resource for your statistics so that we could judge the methods used to collate that data.

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Tim John wrote:
The club should be closed.....
Goddam it, I want you all to go watch Ronald Reagan's office visit to the hippies when they tried to take over a park in California. He told them it was PRIVATE PROPERTY. If I can't make a goddam business where I can decide if people want to smoke, or I want it to be men only, or I want only pipe smokers, THAT IS AMERICA. When yo start telling private owners they cant make this policy or that policy, you aren't living in America anymore, your living in Nazi germany. The Irony is that you think you are preventing that.
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MightyKrendarian wrote:
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Goddam it, I want you all to go watch Ronald Reagan's office visit to the hippies when they tried to take over a park in California. He told them it was PRIVATE PROPERTY. If I can't make a goddam business where I can decide if people want to smoke, or I want it to be men only, or I want only pipe smokers, THAT IS AMERICA. When yo start telling private owners they cant make this policy or that policy, you aren't living in America anymore, your living in Nazi germany. The Irony is that you think you are preventing that.
Here's a clue, the parents were not told that it was an all-White club...The club took the parents money and then didn't allow service at the pool; therefore, they are liable, clown...it's very simple and straight forward...
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MightyKrendarian wrote:
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Goddam it, I want you all to go watch Ronald Reagan's office visit to the hippies when they tried to take over a park in California. He told them it was PRIVATE PROPERTY. If I can't make a goddam business where I can decide if people want to smoke, or I want it to be men only, or I want only pipe smokers, THAT IS AMERICA. When yo start telling private owners they cant make this policy or that policy, you aren't living in America anymore, your living in Nazi germany. The Irony is that you think you are preventing that.
OK. Open your business. Don't use water, electricity, public access via roads, utilities, etc.
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denita d wrote:
<quoted text>I'm not justifying what was done to the children at all.What I'm trying to get your rude, uncle Tom ass to understand is this.
Why continue to complain about how bad a certain group of people treat you,then continue to go out of your way to socialize with them? You should think before you post another "We the vicitm again thread."
They weren't going out of the way to do anything brain dead clown, the parents did what! PAID FOR A SERVICE! repeat the parents did what! PAID FOR A SERVICE!!

The club did what! ACCEPTED PAYMENT TO PROVIDE A SERVICE!!

Therefore, retarded clown, no one went out of their way to do anything, the club simply engaged in DECEPTIVE business practice...

And the word 'victim' is spelled with the second 'I' in between the t and the m as in TIM, or VICTIM...got that clown, learn it and make a note of it!
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I Hate Syracuse wrote:
If it is a private club, they should be able to do what they want to. I only hope that those who pay for the privilege of being a member of the club also drop out forcing the club to go out of business. Otherwise, these are the consequences of not having your own and relying on others to provide for you. If you depend on others for ‘stuff’ expect to be shortchanged and even cheated. I do not believe for one second the parents were told they do not allow minorities. I understand how one could make the assumption, but I do not accept that someone who represents the club would be so brash.
Get you own personal pool; I had one. I am an ethnic minority (black). You could never deny me the comforts of my own pool and hot tub. We as a people complain so much about not being included when we fail to see our very own opportunities to provide for ourselves. It is not the responsibility of this private club to provide our children a place or facility to have fun. It is the responsibility of the parents to make this happen.
They may be racists, but they have a right to be that. I think it is despicable. But, why would you want to be a member of a club that does not want you to be there. It seems unintelligible?
Ok, whether providing for yourself or not, not being able to swim at a pool for reasons like that, especially when you paid money, is not good. We didn't build america on those types of values. And just because someone is wealthy, what if they lived in a place where they couldn't have a pool(i.e city, subdivision) then they would end up having no choice but to go to a place like that. Not a solution.

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Tim John wrote:
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They weren't going out of the way to do anything brain dead clown, the parents did what! PAID FOR A SERVICE! repeat the parents did what! PAID FOR A SERVICE!!
The club did what! ACCEPTED PAYMENT TO PROVIDE A SERVICE!!
Therefore, retarded clown, no one went out of their way to do anything, the club simply engaged in DECEPTIVE business practice...
And the word 'victim' is spelled with the second 'I' in between the t and the m as in TIM, or VICTIM...got that clown, learn it and make a note of it!
The club should refund the money,be sued for deceptive business practices and BLACK people should open up "our" own clubs for "OUR" children.That would put an end to the constant victim...Ohh.. There was a typo error before,asshole.
You just enjoy begging white people for exceptance and staying on your weak ass knees complaining about everything.Man up and do something for yourself..DAMN!
In case you can't understand the message I'm sending your helpless ass...Black people are tired of the vicitm mentality.It serves no purpose what so ever.Ultimately, AA children are the ones who are hurt by it.Why not care enough to make A place for your "OWN" instead of running in behind white people like a well trained pet all the time!

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Dre wrote:
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pure house n_gger
Actually a pure multi-house-owner n_gger. One who respects your privacy more than you do. My position is that a private club cannot be told what to do, even if I believe it is reprehensible.

This is sad, when one has a disagreement that we stoop to levels of name-calling. How about taking the time to educate me? Maybe you could actually convince me to see things from your perspective. Give it a try! It might get you somewhere, someday.

Respectfully!

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puttingholesinhappiness wrote:
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Ok, whether providing for yourself or not, not being able to swim at a pool for reasons like that, especially when you paid money, is not good. We didn't build america on those types of values. And just because someone is wealthy, what if they lived in a place where they couldn't have a pool(i.e city, subdivision) then they would end up having no choice but to go to a place like that. Not a solution.
I see your point; the only issue is there is no real legal leg to stand on as it pertains to this matter. But, I’m no attorney… And, if I lived in a community where there were restrictions from owning a pool and hot-tub, then I would move. That is all part of having the privilege of being middle-class; having choices. If you do not have those same choices, well that is part of the consequences of not being in the middle class. I am not slamming anyone here. I am just stating the situation as I see it.

I grew up poor; in foster homes, group homes, and a boys home (The Melville House) on Long Island. I grew up dirt poor with no food other than what my school provided. At times; no heat or electricity. My mother had multiple children from as many men. There was no man to speak of during my adolescence. Many times, I had to steal just to make sure my brothers did not go to bed hungry.

So, I know first hand what these kids must have felt like. It is a terrible feeling to be treated like you are less than others. It is time that we stop putting our trust in others and we begin to look within for a solution. Why would you want to be part of a club that does not welcome you?
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denita d wrote:
<quoted text>The club should refund the money,be sued for deceptive business practices and BLACK people should open up "our" own clubs for "OUR" children.That would put an end to the constant victim...Ohh.. There was a typo error before,asshole.
You just enjoy begging white people for exceptance and staying on your weak ass knees complaining about everything.Man up and do something for yourself..DAMN!
In case you can't understand the message I'm sending your helpless ass...Black people are tired of the vicitm mentality.It serves no purpose what so ever.Ultimately, AA children are the ones who are hurt by it.Why not care enough to make A place for your "OWN" instead of running in behind white people like a well trained pet all the time!
Ahh..B$%^H, you are on your knees now, waiting for me, huh?

Most of what you are talking about is off topic, start a thread about Blacks creating their own places for children to go and enjoy themselves, so I can come in there and tell you about the "NBA CARES" programs and the many contributions they have made with regard to community centers, parks, recreation centers..and etc..

However, clown, this thread is about a club that provided deceptive service after receiving moneys to provide that service!

You failed reading comprehension in school huh? Do worry I'm sure you pay the bills by getting on your hands and knees, if you know what I mean...

Don't bore me again...
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denita d wrote:
<quoted text>The club should refund the money,be sued for deceptive business practices and BLACK people should open up "our" own clubs for "OUR" children.That would put an end to the constant victim...Ohh.. There was a typo error before,asshole.
You just enjoy begging white people for exceptance and staying on your weak ass knees complaining about everything.Man up and do something for yourself..DAMN!
In case you can't understand the message I'm sending your helpless ass...Black people are tired of the vicitm mentality.It serves no purpose what so ever.Ultimately, AA children are the ones who are hurt by it.Why not care enough to make A place for your "OWN" instead of running in behind white people like a well trained pet all the time!
You are just tired period, and from the floor up..

"Victims mentality"..- that's the kind of talk I would expect from a Black woman with a White man...

Do you have a White man?

The truth of the plight of African Americans shows a people that are truly resilient - a people that have over come a great deal...however, every people so harmed always do better when they do for EACH OTHER, not just for themselves...

Do something for myself....B$%^H are you kidding, if only you knew...if only you knew...

"Running in behind White people."..you are a stupid azz clown, man you are a stupid azz moron...

Here's a simple question, What have you done in your community? NOT A GODDAMN THING!!

But you got something retarded to say to Tim John...

B$%^H, Please, you need to redouble your check-me, and check your GODDAMN self - when you have started a youth camp for these children in your area holla back, otherwise, don't you got some dishes to wash...and when you are done there get in there in that bathroom, get that head cleaned up...
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Tim John wrote:
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Ahh..B$%^H, you are on your knees now, waiting for me, huh?
Most of what you are talking about is off topic, start a thread about Blacks creating their own places for children to go and enjoy themselves, so I can come in there and tell you about the "NBA CARES" programs and the many contributions they have made with regard to community centers, parks, recreation centers..and etc..
However, clown, this thread is about a club that provided deceptive service after receiving moneys to provide that service!
You failed reading comprehension in school huh? Do worry I'm sure you pay the bills by getting on your hands and knees, if you know what I mean...
Don't bore me again...
I agree that the discussion is getting too broad and is steering away from the incident
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Tim John wrote:
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You are just tired period, and from the floor up..
"Victims mentality"..- that's the kind of talk I would expect from a Black woman with a White man...
Do you have a White man?
The truth of the plight of African Americans shows a people that are truly resilient - a people that have over come a great deal...however, every people so harmed always do better when they do for EACH OTHER, not just for themselves...
Do something for myself....B$%^H are you kidding, if only you knew...if only you knew...
"Running in behind White people."..you are a stupid azz clown, man you are a stupid azz moron...
Here's a simple question, What have you done in your community? NOT A GODDAMN THING!!
But you got something retarded to say to Tim John...
B$%^H, Please, you need to redouble your check-me, and check your GODDAMN self - when you have started a youth camp for these children in your area holla back, otherwise, don't you got some dishes to wash...and when you are done there get in there in that bathroom, get that head cleaned up...
What was so terrible about her input?

I think both of you have good arguments, btw.
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Tim John wrote:
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Ahh..B$%^H, you are on your knees now, waiting for me, huh?
Most of what you are talking about is off topic, start a thread about Blacks creating their own places for children to go and enjoy themselves, so I can come in there and tell you about the "NBA CARES" programs and the many contributions they have made with regard to community centers, parks, recreation centers..and etc..
However, clown, this thread is about a club that provided deceptive service after receiving moneys to provide that service!
You failed reading comprehension in school huh? Do worry I'm sure you pay the bills by getting on your hands and knees, if you know what I mean...
Don't bore me again...
What was so terrible about her input?

I think both of you have good arguments, btw.
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What was so terrible about her input?
I think both of you have good arguments, btw.
Her input is off topic, and she is trying to force on a prima facie, "What have you done for the Black community, instead of following the White man" -personal agenda versus me...

I was just concentrating on the fact that the club failed to provide a service it accepted moneys to provide. that's all..
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Funny how this incident has been overblown , while the 50-on-6 Black on White attack in Akron , OH. was basically ignored (although CNN to their credit has actually covered it).

These Inner-city ingrates are getting greedy these days. Going to the suburbs to swim? Please. Next time just get the wrench out and open up the nearest fire hydrant and save yourselves the trouble.
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ROMPER STOMPER wrote:
Funny how this incident has been overblown , while the 50-on-6 Black on White attack in Akron , OH. was basically ignored (although CNN to their credit has actually covered it).
These Inner-city ingrates are getting greedy these days. Going to the suburbs to swim? Please. Next time just get the wrench out and open up the nearest fire hydrant and save yourselves the trouble.
What's funnier is the sounds your lady makes in disapproval every time you pull down your pants and she see you little limp pink pencil-looking device.
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