Mexican comic book 'Memin Pinguin' sold at Wal-Mart called racist

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diane77 wrote:

that is a racist comic book they shouldn't sell it to kids or at Walmart

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WHITEGIRLMEX wrote:

LOL. Who looks like Memin Pinguin? Nobody I know. Looking around in the US, it looks more like Mexicans are the bottom man on the totem pole...BELOW the blacks. They move into ghettos behind blacks, they are in ACTUAL cotton fields picking ACTUAL cotton and strawberries and lettuce. They are the shoe shine boys, maids, car wash attendants, valets, dishwashers, trash collectors. LMAO.
Its a class thing, I think. Those who live in the lowest black communities may assume that Memin somehow represents them. The stories do not seem to bear this out. Also the fact that her parent(s) chose to cripple her with a name like "Shawnedria", and that she was shopping in a WalMart is very telling. I dont feel its racist at all. They NEED memin...who else are they going to laugh at...themselves?

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soulflower wrote:

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Latinos are definitely not the lowest on the totem pole and while many have worked low income positions, in the hearts and minds of others they were not regarded as low.
Shawnedria is her name and when last I checked this is America and her parents had the right to give her that name or any other.
NO Black person thinks that Memin is a representation of him/her personally, but it is a racist depiction of a Black/dark skinned person.
It is lost on you, but MOST Black people are concerned about fairness and equality, which is why so many of them wanted better treatment for Latinos.
WalMart will undoubtedly not remove the comic, but Blacks should boycott Walmart and send people into the stores to destroy the books in protest, in secret.

WHITEGIRLMEX wrote:

LOL. Who looks like Memin Pinguin? Nobody I know. Looking around in the US, it looks more like Mexicans are the bottom man on the totem pole...BELOW the blacks. They move into ghettos behind blacks, they are in ACTUAL cotton fields picking ACTUAL cotton and strawberries and lettuce. They are the shoe shine boys, maids, car wash attendants, valets, dishwashers, trash collectors. LMAO.
Its a class thing, I think. Those who live in the lowest black communities may assume that Memin somehow represents them. The stories do not seem to bear this out. Also the fact that her parent(s) chose to cripple her with a name like "Shawnedria", and that she was shopping in a WalMart is very telling. I dont feel its racist at all. They NEED memin...who else are they going to laugh at...themselves?

WHITEGIRLMEX wrote:

LOL. Who looks like Memin Pinguin? Nobody I know. Looking around in the US, it looks more like Mexicans are the bottom man on the totem pole...BELOW the blacks. They move into ghettos behind blacks, they are in ACTUAL cotton fields picking ACTUAL cotton and strawberries and lettuce. They are the shoe shine boys, maids, car wash attendants, valets, dishwashers, trash collectors. LMAO.
Its a class thing, I think. Those who live in the lowest black communities may assume that Memin somehow represents them. The stories do not seem to bear this out. Also the fact that her parent(s) chose to cripple her with a name like "Shawnedria", and that she was shopping in a WalMart is very telling. I dont feel its racist at all. They NEED memin...who else are they going to laugh at...themselves?

Harrisson wrote:

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I'm actually of mixed opinion on this, Soulflower. Here are some of my thoughts:
1. Many black folks don't KNOW how structurally racist Latin American society is. With the exception of communist Cuba, every single Latin American nation reserves its most degraded ranks for its darkest citizens - blacks or Indians.
2. The Latino "community" (or communties) in the United States likely have no idea how deeply offensive the reality of (1) would be to most African-Americans if we knew about it.
3. If the Memin comic books are allowed to stay on the shelves, it'll allow black Americans to see how the less educated strata (or maybe all strata) of Mexican society view us. This could be useful in terms of a "wake-up" call.
With all of the above in mind, part of me wants to just let things be for a while.
Maybe prominent African-American VIPs (Colin Powell, Oprah and others) could send a note of polite protest to LULAC (League of United Latin American Citizens) and MALDEF (Mexican-American Legal Defense and Education Fund) and let them take the initiative to clean things up.
I really don't want to see demonstrations, and noisy Al-Sharpton-style hoopla out there though. All that does is allow white racists to mock us and to play divide and conquer by "reaching out" to Mexican-Americans and saying:
"Look at that racist-ass Mofo Al Sharpton. See how he's doin' you guys too?? These people ain't right."
White-supremacists LOVE this. They LOVE to see folks of color at each others' throats. I can hear them now: "Yeahhhhh, baby! Divide and Conquer like it ain't no thang!!"

JinRei wrote:

What is the NAACP and Al going to do now? Sue the Mexicans for discrimination?
Any black guy/gal who gets upset about a a comic book needs to stop milking the taxpayers and get what them white folks call "a job"

King Ahzi wrote:

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And they all did it at thier own will and they should be laughing at themselves

Redkat wrote:

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You might be a little young to actually know why this is considered racist. From the mid-1800's on into the mid 1960's you could find blacks portrayed in advertisements and on consumer products in very demeaning caricatures. Some include, Darky toothpaste, Aunt Jemima pancake mix, Uncle Remus syrup, the Coon Chicken Inn restaurant and a host of other products and establishments that used demeaning caricatures of African Americans. Most of the products were either discontinued or revamped to include positive more suitable images like Aunt Jemima, Uncle Benny's rice, and Cream of Wheat. This comic is obviously a caricature that is accepted in Mexico and South America but in the US, it is very offensive and should be remvoed from the shelves. If migrating hispanics want their favorite comic they should order it online or something but if it's offensive to others it shouldn't be on the shelves. There are all sorts of gory adult oriented comics that aren't readily available on the shelves from vampire comics to adult anime. There are racist publications as well that don't make it to the shelves, this is no different. A few years ago Amazon.com was criticized for selling the Turner Diaries novel, which they still do. It's just unfortunate that people aren't more considerate of others.

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Harrisson wrote:

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I'm actually of mixed opinion on this, Soulflower. Here are some of my thoughts:
1. Many black folks don't KNOW how structurally racist Latin American society is. With the exception of communist Cuba, every single Latin American nation reserves its most degraded ranks for its darkest citizens - blacks or Indians.
2. The Latino "community" (or communties) in the United States likely have no idea how deeply offensive the reality of (1) would be to most African-Americans if we knew about it.
3. If the Memin comic books are allowed to stay on the shelves, it'll allow black Americans to see how the less educated strata (or maybe all strata) of Mexican society view us. This could be useful in terms of a "wake-up" call.
With all of the above in mind, part of me wants to just let things be for a while.
Maybe prominent African-American VIPs (Colin Powell, Oprah and others) could send a note of polite protest to LULAC (League of United Latin American Citizens) and MALDEF (Mexican-American Legal Defense and Education Fund) and let them take the initiative to clean things up.
I really don't want to see demonstrations, and noisy Al-Sharpton-style hoopla out there though. All that does is allow white racists to mock us and to play divide and conquer by "reaching out" to Mexican-Americans and saying:
"Look at that racist-ass Mofo Al Sharpton. See how he's doin' you guys too?? These people ain't right."
White-supremacists LOVE this. They LOVE to see folks of color at each others' throats. I can hear them now: "Yeahhhhh, baby! Divide and Conquer like it ain't no thang!!"

Harrisson wrote:

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I'm actually of mixed opinion on this, Soulflower. Here are some of my thoughts:
1. Many black folks don't KNOW how structurally racist Latin American society is. With the exception of communist Cuba, every single Latin American nation reserves its most degraded ranks for its darkest citizens - blacks or Indians.
2. The Latino "community" (or communties) in the United States likely have no idea how deeply offensive the reality of (1) would be to most African-Americans if we knew about it.
3. If the Memin comic books are allowed to stay on the shelves, it'll allow black Americans to see how the less educated strata (or maybe all strata) of Mexican society view us. This could be useful in terms of a "wake-up" call.
With all of the above in mind, part of me wants to just let things be for a while.
Maybe prominent African-American VIPs (Colin Powell, Oprah and others) could send a note of polite protest to LULAC (League of United Latin American Citizens) and MALDEF (Mexican-American Legal Defense and Education Fund) and let them take the initiative to clean things up.
I really don't want to see demonstrations, and noisy Al-Sharpton-style hoopla out there though. All that does is allow white racists to mock us and to play divide and conquer by "reaching out" to Mexican-Americans and saying:
"Look at that racist-ass Mofo Al Sharpton. See how he's doin' you guys too?? These people ain't right."
White-supremacists LOVE this. They LOVE to see folks of color at each others' throats. I can hear them now: "Yeahhhhh, baby! Divide and Conquer like it ain't no thang!!"